Post by Donny - Bucks on Oct 11, 2018 5:26:02 GMT
The 127th nominee of the NBN Hall of Fame retired before winning an NBN Championship. Joel Embiid likely goes down as one of the most dominant players to never win a ring in the NBN, as he's at the top of the record books in some of the most highly touted categories around. Was Embiid good enough to #TrustTheProcess of getting into the NBN Hall of Fame? Let's look into that.
Career Stats
1,491 games - 17.2 PPG, 13.7 RPG, 3.1 BPG, 1.5 SPG, 2.5 APG, 2.7 TOPG, 125 DQ's, 45.7% from the field, 79.3% from the line, 30.1% from three
Best Season
2025 Clippers - 22.2 PPG, 14.6 RPG, 2.0 SPG, 3.3 BPG, 3.0 APG, 2.7 TOPG, 47.3% from the field, 81.9% from the line, 43.8% from three
Career Highs
Points: 51
Rebounds: 33
Assists: 11
Steals: 7
Blocks: 12
Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 233
Player of the Week: 6
Player of the Month: 1
Double Doubles: 1081
Triple Doubles: 10
Career Leaderboard Rankings:
Points - 43
Rebounds - 1
Blocks - 3
Double Doubles - 1
Awards
2014 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2018 - All-Star Game Participant
2021 - All-Star Game Participant
2021 - All-League Third Team
2022 - All-Star Game Participant
2022 - All-League Third Team
2022 - Defensive Player of the Year
2022 - All-Defensive Team
2023 - All-Star Game Participant
2023 - All-League Third Team
2023 - All-Defensive Team
2024 - All-Star Game Participant
2024 - All-League Second Team
2024 - All-Defensive Second Team
2025 - All-Star Game Participant
2025 - All-League First Team
2025 - Defensive Player of the Year
2025 - All-Defensive Team
2026 - All-Star Game Participant
2026 - All-League First Team
2026 - All-Defensive Second Team
2027 - All-League Second Team
2027 - Defensive Player of the Year
2027 - All-Defensive Team
2028 - All-Star Game Participant
2028 - All-League Second Team
2028 - Defensive Player of the Year
2028 - All-Defensive Team
2029 - All-Star Game Participant
2029 - All-League Third Team
2029 - All-Defensive Team
2030 - All-Star Game Participant
2030 - All-Star Game MVP
2030 - All-League First Team
2030 - Defensive Player of the Year
2030 - All-Defensive Team
2031 - All-Star Game Participant
Arguments For Induction
- When Embiid retired, he may have still been the best defensive/rebounding big in the league even at 37 years old. Embiid ranks 3rd all-time in blocks and 1st all-time in rebounding and double doubles, while also landing at #43 on the all-time points leaderboard. One of the most dominant all-around bigs ever.
- Let's not ignore the fact that he has 1,081 double doubles and 10 triple doubles to his name in just 1,491 games. Pretty insane to consider that's over 2/3.
- Embiid also happens to hold the record for most rebounds in a game with 33. Pure, pure dominance for a big man.
- While the 17.2 PPG doesn't pop out at you, Embiid could get buckets. Embiid had 12 seasons where he averaged over 17 PPG which is fantastic for longevity, including 5 seasons of over 20 PPG. Embiid did it all.
- TEN All-League awards for a big is a huge accomplishment. FIVE Defensive Player of the Year Awards is even BIGGER of an accomplishment. Nine times Embiid landed on an All-Defensive team. One of, if not the best defender in NBN history.
Arguments Against Induction
- Lack of success around every team he was on. Embiid decided to retire the year before the Pacers won the title with Jaemyn Brakefield taking his spot at the 5. PJ couldn't get it done with Embiid over an entire decade, hurting his cause slightly.
- Even though FBB is huge on stocks, Embiid only won Player of the Week six times and Player of the Month just one time.
- Embiid averaged more turnovers per game than assists per game, creating a hole in his argument because of his lack of ability to generate offense passing the ball.
- Tough start to his career in terms of accolades. From 2014-2020, he only made one All-Star team.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $25 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $25***