2041 NBN Hall of Fame Nominee - Brooklyn Vick

[Donny - Bucks]

Brooklyn Vick is one of the ERA's most polarizing players, for a few reasons. One, he was a shooting guard listed as a point guard. Two? He was absolutely DOMINANT. Will this be enough for him to get into the NBN Hall of Fame?

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CAREER STATS
Games: 1,102
MPG: 37.7
PPG: 26.4
RPG: 5.7
APG: 7.5
SPG: 1.5
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 2.2
FG%: .476
FT%: .891
3P%: .424

Best Season (2033 Nuggets)
Games: 76
MPG: 37.5
PPG: 30.6
RPG: 5.6
APG: 9.2
SPG: 1.7
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 2.5
FG%: .497
FT%: .944
3P%: .440

Career Highs
Points: 65
Rebounds: 17
Assists: 19
Steals: 8
Blocks: 3

Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 217
Player of the Week: 10
Player of the Month: 1
Double Doubles: 388
Triple Doubles: 28

Career Leaderboard Rankings
- Points (29092) - #38
- Assists (8265) - #46
- FG (10968) - #34
- FT (4502) - #92
- 3P (2607) - #43
- TD (28) - #24

Awards
2028 - All-Rookie Second Team
2029 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2033 - All-Star Game Participant
2035 - All-Star Game Participant



Arguments For Induction
- Brooklyn Vick was a monster scorer his entire career. #38 all-time on the scoring leaderboard and likely a top 10 scorer in terms of per-game performance. 

- Ridiculous ability to score, pass, and rebound. While he turned the ball over slightly too much, he was an incredible talent who put up 388 double doubles and 28 triple doubles, both of which are crazy for a point guard.

- Vick bounced around a bit but he was nasty for whoever he played for. Not even in his rookie season did he drop under 18 PPG or 5 RPG, not to mention many 9+ assist per game seasons.

Arguments Against Induction
- He has to be evaluated as both a shooting guard and a point guard because of his usage. If Vick had just played point guard his entire career and had a 26/9/6 stat-line for his career, things may be a bit different.

- No ring, sadly. 0 Championships will be the only blemish on what was otherwise an especially good career.

- Not much award-wise. Not many All-Star games and never made a single All-League team.

Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.

***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $25 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $25***

[ucfinfan86]

This is tough. No championships, below average stocks, high turnovers and limited awards (although due to position). He was a dominant scorer though. Wonder how many awards he’d have as a SG. I would say no if he wasn’t such a dominant scorer, but I’m going to say yes but open to changing my answer.

[zheld32]

I tend to agree with nets on this. I think he is a SG in a PG body kind of like a version of Iverson in the NBA. If he was a SG I feel like this would be a no doubt hall of fame career but like some of the other hall of fame score first pgs I am going to say yes. He was always around 25+ppg and he had 4 seasons of basically 30ppg and 9-10apg. Yes for me

[StayMe7o]

I say no. Just not enough stats or accolades

[SpikeLee14]

38th all time in scoring. Was an absolute monster when he played. Big yes from me

[thefirstcedi]

Yes. Sure why not.

[JCog72]

Jul 28, 2019 12:51:11 GMT ucfinfan86 said:

This is tough. No championships, below average stocks, high turnovers and limited awards (although due to position). He was a dominant scorer though. Wonder how many awards he’d have as a SG. I would say no if he wasn’t such a dominant scorer, but I’m going to say yes but open to changing my answer.

I agree, I’ll side yes rn but it’s another close one.

[lynchcats]

I'm going to side with yes. Awards aren't everything, especially with the way FBB favors the assists totals. Vick was a offensive machine, and let's not forget he retired really young (only 34). If he had played another five seasons, he's probably closer to top 10 all-time in points scored instead of 38th. He's a much easier yes than LBJ Jr.

[vanimmer]

One of my favourite pg ever
Easy yes. He was a beast

[pjclippers]

Can't vote for a player to make the Hall with no All-League teams or titles

[naterade]

This one is super tough. Vick was a monstrous scorer but legit never finished top 3 in his position at any point in his career, despite being a beast. To me he resembles a CJ McCollum type of player where he put up big numbers and got wins but was overshadowed by better players his whole career which reduced his accolades to nothing but the two all star appearances.

I hate to say it because I loved having him, but I’m voting no. Possibly one of my favorite players in the NBN but not an all time great IMO.

[A. Silver]

Voting no. I had a pretty solid team and brought him in thinking we would be really competitive but we were just mediocre. Overhyped guy who got a lot of stats but not a lot of wins. Combine that with his bad defense and turnover problem and it's an easy no for me.

[ucfinfan86]

After reading some of the reasonings, especially from the teams that Vick played for, I think I'm going to change my vote to No.

[The Slough]

Really tough, but what PJ and Silver said. Great scorer, but I don't think more than that really.

[mcmuslim]

No accolades whatsoever. Sure he was a dominant scorer but if he isn't even considered one of the top point guards in fbb terms. gotta say no.