2045 Hall of Fame Nominee - Dick McGuire

[Donny - Bucks]

Dick is a player that most of us in the NBN consider a model of consistency, considering he put up 13 seasons in a row of 20/9 or better seasons after sitting on the bench his first few seasons. Will this be enough for him to get into the NBN Hall of Fame?

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CAREER STATS
Games: 1,335
MPG: 33.7
PPG: 21.1
RPG: 3.5
APG: 8.8
SPG: 2.0
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 1.8
FG%: .458
FT%: .841
3P%: .395

Best Season (2040 Pacers)
Games: 79
MPG: 38.6
PPG: 26.5
RPG: 3.8
APG: 11.4
SPG: 2.4
BPG: 0.3
TOPG: 2.4
FG%: .479
FT%: .853
3P%: .447

Career Highs
Points: 58
Rebounds: 12
Assists: 26
Steals: 8
Blocks: 4

Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 280
Player of the Week: 11
Player of the Month: 3
Double Doubles: 619
Triple Doubles: 7

Career Leaderboard Rankings
Games - 51 (1,335)
Points - 57 (28,169)
Assists - 13 
FG - 47 (11,748)
3P - 61 (4,001)
DD - 79 (619)

Awards
2029 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2029 - All-Rookie Second Team
2030 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2037 - All-Star Game Participant
2040 - All-League Third Team
2041 - All-League Third Team




Arguments For Induction
- As mentioned before, consistency. He was very good at doing everything right and although he was never "overly insane" in terms of his talent, he was consistently great at what he did and helped improve every team he was ever on.

- He stuffed the stat sheet with over 600 double-doubles, on top of multiple All-Star and All-League appearances, 280 player of the games, 11 player of the weeks, and even 3 player of the months. He was never the main scorer on his team but always put up numbers.

- One of the most understated things that Dick brought to the table was his defensive ability. He was almost always a stock machine and was a fantastic perimeter defender, being a consistent top 10 steal-getter for whatever team he was on.

Arguments Against Induction
- No NBN Championship may hurt his case. He was an extremely talented player on some great teams but couldn't get it done, regardless of if he was a Pacer, Raptor, Spur, Sun, etc. 

- Sitting bench his first four seasons didn't help at all. His career stats aren't nearly as exciting with four seasons under 25 MPG to start of his career. 

- McGuire may have needed a little extra something to get him into the Hall. He was always good at everything, even rebounding, but outside of his passing ability, not sure he was the very best at anything in the league. Dick never had problems with his turnovers and scored a ton doing it, but he didn't ever do anything "the best" of point guards.

Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.

***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $25 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $25***

[Donny - Bucks]

I voted yes, and my reasoning's pretty simple.

If you broke down the numbers and got rid of the first four seasons that he spent on the bench as a sub PG, he'd be around a 25/10.5 player for his career. That's very, very hard to find out of a point guard. On top of that, he was extremely efficient for most of his career as well, with 10 seasons of over 45% shooting, a dozen seasons of very good free throw shooting, on top of being one of the best passers in the league for his entire career.

While, I don't think he was ever the best PG in the league, it's hard to deny that he wasn't extremely consistent, talented, and underrated throughout his career.

[Deleted]

Voted no, good player but not good enough

[The Slough]

Solid player and underrated, but not HOF worthy to me.

[SpikeLee14]

I’ll vote no. 13th in assists is nice but everything else was just the norm. No titles minimum awards.

[thefirstcedi]

No, this one is silly.

[pjclippers]

Def no - in a league where PGs dominated he was just a run of the mill guy

[frosty]

No had him a couple times and he was always just above average. Got passed around the league forever before Donny got a hard on for him

[A. Silver]

No, he was an ok starter but not a HOFer

[ucfinfan86]

No, never one of the top tier PGs in the league

[lynchcats]

He's closer than everyone is saying but it's a no. Only one All-Star game. Not enough.

[Antonius Block]

Not even close. Only 1x allstar and 2x league 3rd team means at best only 3 seasons he was in the top tier of the league

[SARGO]

I said no

He looks like one of the better players, steady AS but not HOF tier

[bigthunder]

Nope - tricky dick had some good seasons but he didn't have quite enough accolades to get in.

[mcmuslim]

although I'd love to see one of my old players get put in the HOF, McGuire was always a great PG, but never a top tier talent. Very solid PG, and one of the top 5-10 at every point in his career, but not HOF material.