Post by Donny - Bucks on Aug 20, 2021 4:45:25 GMT
A former Playoff MVP and three-time champion, Jamal Murray could've likely played two, three more years at a high level before retiring, even at 36. Alas, Murray put together a very solid, well-rounded career. Will this be enough for him to get into the NBN Hall of Fame?
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2033/html/players/player489.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 1,119
MPG: 34.8
PPG: 22.0
RPG: 5.0
APG: 7.8
SPG: 1.6
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 3.0
FG%: .467
FT%: .878
3P%: .421
Best Season (2026 Rockets)
Games: 79
MPG: 39.2
PPG: 31.4
RPG: 5.9
APG: 10.1
SPG: 1.6
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 3.8
FG%: .479
FT%: .871
3P%: .430
Career Highs
Points: 56
Rebounds: 16
Assists: 22
Steals: 7
Blocks: 3
Achievements
Championships: 3
Player of the Game: 233
Player of the Week: 14
Player of the Month: 3
Double Doubles: 405
Triple Doubles: 19
Awards
2022 - All-League Third Team
2025 - All-Star Game Participant
2026 - 3-Point Shootout Champion
2026 - All-Star Game Participant
2027 - All-Star Game Participant
2027 - All-Star Game MVP
2027 - Playoff MVP
2028 - All-Star Game Participant
Arguments For Induction
- Quite a career. Murray never got the love he deserved in All-League teams because of a very slight lack of stocks compared to the high end, but man, this dude could SCORE. Murray was one of the only guards I considered on the same level offensively as Cole Anthony for a long time and he always helped his teams, en route to three titles and a playoff MVP in 2027.
- Unlike other players, Murray was a contributor everywhere he went. Grizzlies with four seasons, Rockets with three, Heat/Raptors with two, and the Hawks, Kings, Suns, and Bucks for one, all where he was GOOD. Like, really good, for the most part.
- Not only was Murray a scorer, he did a fair amount of passing en route to 8,728 assists. He was a pretty quality rebounder at 5 RPG over his career and grabbed about 2 stocks per game as well, all while being an extraordinarily efficient shooter (.467/.878/.421).
Arguments Against Induction
- His stat line isn't super complete-looking for a Hall of Famer PG, and the times he spent off the bench or at shooting guard didn't necessarily help his case. 22/7.8/5 is good, but it could've looked much better had he started on a longer-term basis.
- Turnover issues were semi-apparent throughout, primarily, early in his career. While you can deal with a close to 4 TOPG player if he's passing at the level Murray did, I'm sure there will be a few people in the responses here who bring up his turnover problems.
- Was Murray ever an elite PG? That's for you to decide. While he had plenty of 25+ PPG seasons with a few high assist seasons in there, there's also quite a few sub 9 APG seasons sprinkled in there with, again, slight turnover issues and some lackluster stock seasons as well.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2033/html/players/player489.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 1,119
MPG: 34.8
PPG: 22.0
RPG: 5.0
APG: 7.8
SPG: 1.6
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 3.0
FG%: .467
FT%: .878
3P%: .421
Best Season (2026 Rockets)
Games: 79
MPG: 39.2
PPG: 31.4
RPG: 5.9
APG: 10.1
SPG: 1.6
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 3.8
FG%: .479
FT%: .871
3P%: .430
Career Highs
Points: 56
Rebounds: 16
Assists: 22
Steals: 7
Blocks: 3
Achievements
Championships: 3
Player of the Game: 233
Player of the Week: 14
Player of the Month: 3
Double Doubles: 405
Triple Doubles: 19
Awards
2022 - All-League Third Team
2025 - All-Star Game Participant
2026 - 3-Point Shootout Champion
2026 - All-Star Game Participant
2027 - All-Star Game Participant
2027 - All-Star Game MVP
2027 - Playoff MVP
2028 - All-Star Game Participant
Arguments For Induction
- Quite a career. Murray never got the love he deserved in All-League teams because of a very slight lack of stocks compared to the high end, but man, this dude could SCORE. Murray was one of the only guards I considered on the same level offensively as Cole Anthony for a long time and he always helped his teams, en route to three titles and a playoff MVP in 2027.
- Unlike other players, Murray was a contributor everywhere he went. Grizzlies with four seasons, Rockets with three, Heat/Raptors with two, and the Hawks, Kings, Suns, and Bucks for one, all where he was GOOD. Like, really good, for the most part.
- Not only was Murray a scorer, he did a fair amount of passing en route to 8,728 assists. He was a pretty quality rebounder at 5 RPG over his career and grabbed about 2 stocks per game as well, all while being an extraordinarily efficient shooter (.467/.878/.421).
Arguments Against Induction
- His stat line isn't super complete-looking for a Hall of Famer PG, and the times he spent off the bench or at shooting guard didn't necessarily help his case. 22/7.8/5 is good, but it could've looked much better had he started on a longer-term basis.
- Turnover issues were semi-apparent throughout, primarily, early in his career. While you can deal with a close to 4 TOPG player if he's passing at the level Murray did, I'm sure there will be a few people in the responses here who bring up his turnover problems.
- Was Murray ever an elite PG? That's for you to decide. While he had plenty of 25+ PPG seasons with a few high assist seasons in there, there's also quite a few sub 9 APG seasons sprinkled in there with, again, slight turnover issues and some lackluster stock seasons as well.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***
10.2.2
10.2.2