2040 Hall of Fame Nominee - Killian Hayes

[Donny - Bucks]

Another GOAT of the league, Killian Hayes played 20 seasons including 19 in Detroit, winning the MVP three times along with dominating the league en route to being a title winner and 8x All-League PG. Will this be enough for him to get into the NBN Hall of Fame?

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CAREER STATS
Games: 1547
MPG: 36.9
PPG: 25.1
RPG: 4.9
APG: 9.2
SPG: 2.7
BPG: 0.2 
TOPG: 2.3
FG%: .462
FT%: .870
3P%: .408

Best Season (2024 Pistons)
Games: 82
MPG: 38.2
PPG: 28.1 
RPG: 4.6
APG: 10.1
SPG: 2.9
BPG: 0.1
TOPG: 2.2
FG%: .487
FT%: .875
3P%: .446

Career Highs
Points: 51
Rebounds: 15
Assists: 24
Steals: 9
Blocks: 3

Achievements
Championships: 1
Player of the Game: 623
Player of the Week: 36
Player of the Month: 9
Double Doubles: 698
Triple Doubles: 30

Awards
2020 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2020 - Rookie of the Year
2020 - All-Rookie Team
2021 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2021 - All-Star Game Participant
2021 - All-Defensive Second Team
2022 - All-Star Game Participant
2023 - All-Star Game Participant
2023 - All-League First Team
2024 - All-Star Game Participant
2024 - Most Valuable Player
2024 - All-League First Team
2024 - Playoff MVP
2025 - All-Star Game Participant
2025 - Most Valuable Player
2025 - All-League First Team
2026 - All-Star Game Participant
2026 - Most Valuable Player
2026 - All-League First Team
2027 - All-Star Game Participant
2027 - All-League First Team
2028 - All-Star Game Participant
2029 - All-Star Game Participant
2029 - All-League Second Team
2031 - All-Star Game Participant
2031 - All-League First Team
2032 - All-Star Game Participant
2032 - All-League First Team
2032 - All-Defensive Team
2033 - All-Star Game Participant



Arguments For Induction
- For my vote, Killian Hayes is one of the few players who should unanimously be on the NBN Mt. Rushmore. He's currently the league's all-time leader in:
~ Games Played (1508)
~ Points (38,342)
~ Assists (14,030)
~ Steals (4,124)
~ Field Goals Made (14,535)

It's hard to argue that this guy isn't one of the greatest if not the greatest to ever play in the league.

- While Killian's end of career wasn't as great as the beginning considering he played into his late 30s, the guy won three MVP's in a row from '24-'26 and was a pretty much guaranteed 26/9/3 on 47-48% for the majority of his prime. He made the All-League team eight times, won the MVP three times, won Playoff MVP, and ended up in 12 different All-Star games.

- Killian Hayes was the definite "no fault" player for much of his career. He never turned the ball over more than 2.7 times per game while almost always being 9+ APG and he scored 25+ PPG on average for THIRTEEN seasons in a row. The dude had longevity and his ability was very apparent for the vast majority of his career.

Arguments Against Induction
- Honestly, it's surprising that Killian only won MVP three times given how good he was into the 2030's. The dude averaged 30.6/9 on 47% one year and didn't win MVP. FBB was HATING.

- Eh, it's pretty much just conjecture but I think he had a chance to be even better at the end of his career had he had the opportunity to leave while Detroit was rebuilding/retooling. I think he had a ton of ability left in the tank during some less-than-admirable years with the Pistons when things weren't going so well and he could've definitely won more titles elsewhere.

- I don't really have much else, to be honest. The dude did it all. Similar to Montero, it's hard to find faults when faults don't exist.

Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.

***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***

[A. Silver]

Yes

[hunt54]

Yes

[Donny - Bucks]

Apr 1, 2022 20:57:12 GMT hunt54 said:

Yes

[carlos]

No Bulls option?

[pjclippers]

Tons of awards and accolades so another easy yes

[cheddar]

Another easy yes

[ucfinfan86]

Yes

[frosty]

Yes

[mcmuslim]

Yes, but in red

[John1974]

Yep

[cop5414]

Idk, not quite enough blocks.

[The Slough]

Easy one of the best Pg's to do it.

[verysilentone]

It's an obvious yes.

Should I have moved him at some point? Probably.

I've said this before but when Charles left, he basically said that I should not move him at all. He basically said it was the best scouting report that he had ever received. He also didn't want me to trade Suggs, Springer or Tatum would obviously that would've been difficult to keep them all together that long.

At some point, it started to feel like a crime for him to play anywhere else even though it's a fictional game. I offered more than the Bulls did, but he left at the end.

[mcmuslim]

Apr 2, 2022 2:13:48 GMT verysilentone said:

It's an obvious yes.

Should I have moved him at some point? Probably.

I've said this before but when Charles left, he basically said that I should not move him at all. He basically said it was the best scouting report that he had ever received. He also didn't want me to trade Suggs, Springer or Tatum would obviously that would've been difficult to keep them all together that long.

At some point, it started to feel like a crime for him to play anywhere else even though it's a fictional game. I offered more than the Bulls did, but he left at the end.

I miss Charles I big reason I drafted Barkley was cause of him 😭