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Post by Rog on Aug 9, 2022 0:14:30 GMT
All it takes is 1 bad move to snowball into more bad moves. John has done this before. Shit I've done this before, its not hard to do. Ok but I wasn't even going this route when I was showing what the cap hit was. Was just proving with their contract structures(Cartwright, Harper having great contracts), Ainge at the time being his only true max contract that it should be possible for him to keep all of them. It's not out of the realm and he could sit back and fill out his roster just how donny has the past couple of seasons. Wasn't taking who the gm was intl consideration and then who was better got thrown out there. I was purely talking numbers and nothing else lol. Whether you meant to or not you compared (again financials or not) one the most successful runs in league history to a roster who hasn't fully realized itself. Whether that was your intention, context was always going to be brought up. And Donny is 100% matter, when Fat Lever is a name in the salary Convo, it makes everything a million times easier.
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Post by yourkers15 on Aug 9, 2022 0:19:04 GMT
Ok but I wasn't even going this route when I was showing what the cap hit was. Was just proving with their contract structures(Cartwright, Harper having great contracts), Ainge at the time being his only true max contract that it should be possible for him to keep all of them. It's not out of the realm and he could sit back and fill out his roster just how donny has the past couple of seasons. Wasn't taking who the gm was intl consideration and then who was better got thrown out there. I was purely talking numbers and nothing else lol. Whether you meant to or not you compared (again financials or not) one the most successful runs in league history to a roster who hasn't fully realized itself. Whether that was your intention, context was always going to be brought up. And Donny is 100% matter, when Fat Lever is a name in the salary Convo, it makes everything a million times easier. Anyone other than donny and the convo doesn't go there I made it clear though talking bout Harper's contract and wouldn't be too hard to lose but yeah it's over now. N yes obviously having Lever and Dino taking that beautiful contract makes life much easier.
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Aug 9, 2022 0:34:11 GMT
Whether you meant to or not you compared (again financials or not) one the most successful runs in league history to a roster who hasn't fully realized itself. Whether that was your intention, context was always going to be brought up. And Donny is 100% matter, when Fat Lever is a name in the salary Convo, it makes everything a million times easier. Anyone other than donny and the convo doesn't go there I made it clear though talking bout Harper's contract and wouldn't be too hard to lose but yeah it's over now. N yes obviously having Lever and Dino taking that beautiful contract makes life much easier. ??? what was the point of bringing up the financials of the cores i do not understand at all.. feels like anyone would've thought you were trying to say "oh he did it with lever/king/olle/dino at $130m so the wolves can do it with the 5 they have at $120m" when it's not that easy
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Post by dash on Aug 9, 2022 0:38:35 GMT
All this arguing only for all of you to lose to the Hawks. 😎
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Post by Rog on Aug 9, 2022 0:38:36 GMT
Whether you meant to or not you compared (again financials or not) one the most successful runs in league history to a roster who hasn't fully realized itself. Whether that was your intention, context was always going to be brought up. And Donny is 100% matter, when Fat Lever is a name in the salary Convo, it makes everything a million times easier. Anyone other than donny and the convo doesn't go there I made it clear though talking bout Harper's contract and wouldn't be too hard to lose but yeah it's over now. N yes obviously having Lever and Dino taking that beautiful contract makes life much easier. If you had said that using me as an example I would have immediately been like "but he doesn't have Frazier...."
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Post by yourkers15 on Aug 9, 2022 0:40:14 GMT
Anyone other than donny and the convo doesn't go there I made it clear though talking bout Harper's contract and wouldn't be too hard to lose but yeah it's over now. N yes obviously having Lever and Dino taking that beautiful contract makes life much easier. ??? what was the point of bringing up the financials of the cores i do not understand at all.. feels like anyone would've thought you were trying to say "oh he did it with lever/king/olle/dino at $130m so the wolves can do it with the 5 they have at $120m" when it's not that easy The point was that they can keep the core together. Had zero to do with I kept this core together because they are great players. Was just showing that the 5 cost less than your 4. Means one less person you would have to worry bout rostering. To keep the core together is a different question then if they could keep it together. Also with the ability to go over the hardcap at day 60 it's way easier to keep a core together.
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Post by yourkers15 on Aug 9, 2022 0:44:51 GMT
Anyone other than donny and the convo doesn't go there I made it clear though talking bout Harper's contract and wouldn't be too hard to lose but yeah it's over now. N yes obviously having Lever and Dino taking that beautiful contract makes life much easier. If you had said that using me as an example I would have immediately been like "but he doesn't have Frazier...." Just don't get how struggling to keep a core together would lead to that when I showed just numbers. Next time I'll just have to do A and B to avoid this confusion.
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Post by Rog on Aug 9, 2022 0:59:17 GMT
If you had said that using me as an example I would have immediately been like "but he doesn't have Frazier...." Just don't get how struggling to keep a core together would lead to that when I showed just numbers. Next time I'll just have to do A and B to avoid this confusion. It's not confusion, context matters. Your core included Maurice Cheeks who gives you 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, and 0 steals.
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Post by yourkers15 on Aug 9, 2022 1:05:30 GMT
Just don't get how struggling to keep a core together would lead to that when I showed just numbers. Next time I'll just have to do A and B to avoid this confusion. It's not confusion, context matters. Your core included Maurice Cheeks who gives you 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, and 0 steals. If names weren't involved are we having this conversation though? Did pretty well with him though lol. My context was names and the numerical value they accumulated to. That context went to well this player is better. I wrote something after that talked about their contracts and how if need be he could move unselds contract to keep that core together. Just talking bout why I don't think he will struggle to kept that core together as he has options. Was taking that from a sentence where it was said he would struggle to keep it together. Plus silver makes it easy to keep cores together. Doesn't matter if the core was good or not as that wasn't what I was proving.
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Post by John1974 on Aug 9, 2022 1:10:32 GMT
This is making me want to drink.
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Aug 9, 2022 1:19:22 GMT
It's not confusion, context matters. Your core included Maurice Cheeks who gives you 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, and 0 steals. Doesn't matter if the core was good or not as that wasn't what I was proving. I was under the impression that we were attempting to win games
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Post by Rog on Aug 9, 2022 1:27:08 GMT
It's not confusion, context matters. Your core included Maurice Cheeks who gives you 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, and 0 steals. If names weren't involved are we having this conversation though? Did pretty well with him though lol. My context was names and the numerical value they accumulated to. That context went to well this player is better. I wrote something after that talked about their contracts and how if need be he could move unselds contract to keep that core together. Just talking bout why I don't think he will struggle to kept that core together as he has options. Was taking that from a sentence where it was said he would struggle to keep it together. Plus silver makes it easy to keep cores together. Doesn't matter if the core was good or not as that wasn't what I was proving. This makes no sense. The Rockets core makes a combined less than 60 million. That'll be an easy core to keep together. End of conversation.
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Post by A. Silver on Aug 9, 2022 3:43:19 GMT
2047 1st goes in the owed picks thread @mattfaria
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Post by A. Silver on Aug 9, 2022 3:43:25 GMT
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Post by SpikeLee14 on Aug 23, 2022 13:02:29 GMT
done
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