Post by Donny - Bucks on Nov 25, 2022 8:15:21 GMT
Elmore Smith played for 7 different teams throughout what ended up being a great defensive career with 3 titles to show for all of his hard work. Will this be enough for him to get into the NBN Hall of Fame?
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2045/html/players/player634.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 1254
MPG: 30.6
PPG: 11.2
RPG: 11.6
APG: 1.4
SPG: 0.9
BPG: 2.8
TOPG: 1.3
FG%: .424
FT%: .674
3P%: .121
Best Season (2038 Celtics)
Games: 79
MPG: 35.5
PPG: 14.8
RPG: 14.1
APG: 1.5
SPG: 1.1
BPG: 3.7
TOPG: 1.6
FG%: .432
FT%: .690
3P%: .000
Career Highs
Points: 36
Rebounds: 26
Assists: 8
Steals: 6
Blocks: 12
Achievements
Championships: 3
Player of the Game: 64
Player of the Week: 0
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 602
Triple Doubles: 3
Awards
2030 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2038 - All-Defensive Second Team
Arguments For Induction
- Personally, Elmore Smith was an incredibly effective, high-impact big in what I'd say is pretty much the perfect mold for a team with offensive talent. Defensive monster to the tune of 4.5 stocks per game for a large portion of his prime, along with 13, 14... even 15 rebounds per game at time.
- The best part about Elmore is he wasn't going to hurt you in any specific area. Even as a mediocre passer, you better believe he wasn't going to turn the ball over much and was always going to shoot a solid 42-43%, which is really pretty quality considering how many sub-40 FG% bigs we have.
- His defense had impressive longevity, even in his final year he was operating at about 4 stocks per 36 along with over 12 RPG. While he may not have the awards to show for it, this is one of the league's best defenders historically, no doubt about it.
Arguments Against Induction
- The lack of awards probably won't help, as mentioned before, and I think that's the biggest knock on him and most of the bigs we hold out. It's hard for a defense-first big to win any awards, even the All-D team considering how they've been ran by the same few guys in recent years.
- As I said before, 7 different teams. After his rookie contract, he never stuck with a team for more than 2 years consecutively, which would lead you to believe he was never the highest priority for the contender he was on at the time.
- He started pretty slow and his stats took a bit of a hit from the mediocre early years, but frankly, he never really developed much more than a slightly above average offensive game, which is usually a big point of contention with big men.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2045/html/players/player634.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 1254
MPG: 30.6
PPG: 11.2
RPG: 11.6
APG: 1.4
SPG: 0.9
BPG: 2.8
TOPG: 1.3
FG%: .424
FT%: .674
3P%: .121
Best Season (2038 Celtics)
Games: 79
MPG: 35.5
PPG: 14.8
RPG: 14.1
APG: 1.5
SPG: 1.1
BPG: 3.7
TOPG: 1.6
FG%: .432
FT%: .690
3P%: .000
Career Highs
Points: 36
Rebounds: 26
Assists: 8
Steals: 6
Blocks: 12
Achievements
Championships: 3
Player of the Game: 64
Player of the Week: 0
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 602
Triple Doubles: 3
Awards
2030 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2038 - All-Defensive Second Team
Arguments For Induction
- Personally, Elmore Smith was an incredibly effective, high-impact big in what I'd say is pretty much the perfect mold for a team with offensive talent. Defensive monster to the tune of 4.5 stocks per game for a large portion of his prime, along with 13, 14... even 15 rebounds per game at time.
- The best part about Elmore is he wasn't going to hurt you in any specific area. Even as a mediocre passer, you better believe he wasn't going to turn the ball over much and was always going to shoot a solid 42-43%, which is really pretty quality considering how many sub-40 FG% bigs we have.
- His defense had impressive longevity, even in his final year he was operating at about 4 stocks per 36 along with over 12 RPG. While he may not have the awards to show for it, this is one of the league's best defenders historically, no doubt about it.
Arguments Against Induction
- The lack of awards probably won't help, as mentioned before, and I think that's the biggest knock on him and most of the bigs we hold out. It's hard for a defense-first big to win any awards, even the All-D team considering how they've been ran by the same few guys in recent years.
- As I said before, 7 different teams. After his rookie contract, he never stuck with a team for more than 2 years consecutively, which would lead you to believe he was never the highest priority for the contender he was on at the time.
- He started pretty slow and his stats took a bit of a hit from the mediocre early years, but frankly, he never really developed much more than a slightly above average offensive game, which is usually a big point of contention with big men.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***