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Post by Rog on Jul 22, 2017 16:35:19 GMT
Couple things here to consider, 1) A revote should be reevaluated based on other precedents set in the last 5 years since he was voted on before. 2) Also, it should be more favorable for Pollard to make it. He got 58% of the vote last time and this is his second time through. More scrutiny is advised but also a softer lens as well, given we're not talking first ballot Hall of Famer anymore.
Here is his the thread with his case and the arguments stated by other GMs:
All the other criteria and what not apply here, just vote what you think.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully!
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $25 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $25***
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Post by lynchcats on Jul 22, 2017 17:44:27 GMT
I'm still going to say no on this trade, as I did the first time. Parker only had two elite passing seasons of more than 9 assists per game, and while his peak years he scored over 20 points per game, he wasn't that elite of a scorer. While he won two championships, those championships don't take away from the fact that only twice he was named an All-Star, he only made ONE All-League team (and that was 3rd team at that), and only ONE Defensive team. He would probably be the head of the Hall of Very Good class, but a Hall of Famer he is not.
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Post by Rog on Jul 23, 2017 4:24:11 GMT
Hard yes for me, I was on the fence before but I ended up voting yes on the original vote. As said, looking at it a little softer, its an easy yes the second vote. He probably isn't a first ballot Hall of Famer, but I think his longevity and contributions make him an actual Hall of Famer though.
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Post by vanimmer on Jul 23, 2017 11:33:44 GMT
Keeping yes
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Post by buckeyeballa10 on Jul 23, 2017 22:30:26 GMT
keeping my vote of yes here as well
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Post by don1955 on Jul 25, 2017 14:22:17 GMT
I did not vote in the original thread as i think i was not back in the league yet, so i had to go look up stuff, a lot of the gm's remarks in the original thread were interesting as for the reasons for them to vote yes or no, an at first i was leaning towards no, but then i went an compared Parker's history with a lot of other candidates that have been denied an accepted, i found a lot of interesting comparisons, i found the best comparison for me was Steve Nash, who i also was on the fence about but ended up voting yes for him, without going into a long stat by stat comparison i found these 2 players to be somewhat the same, jmo, each one had an advantage over the other in a few things, but overall it was close to me between the 2, an so with that being said, i voted for Nash to be inducted an so i have to vote for Parker to be inducted also
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Post by Charles on Jul 25, 2017 15:32:21 GMT
I voted yes because I liked the fact he won a pair of championships and was awards with playoff MVP for one. Also, he was part of two all star teams which isn't a lot but they were 7 years apart which means he was a fringe all star for a long time and broke in a couple times which is solid considering there's only 2 all star pgs a year. He shot very well, pretty much 45/90/40. He was also good for possessions, he stole the ball more then he turned it over which is great and grabbed 5 boards a game. Those are some solid ass numbers.
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Post by JCog72 on Jul 25, 2017 15:39:33 GMT
Yes, he was a big time contributor to the great teams he played for. Great %s and HOF worthy type guy
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Post by SpikeLee14 on Jul 25, 2017 15:50:48 GMT
Didn't vote the first time but I think TP deserves it. 2 championships and the 300+ player of the game awards shows how great he contributed to those teams. Great defender and former Playoff MVP. Big yes from the Knicks
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Post by bigthunder on Jul 26, 2017 17:44:39 GMT
Yes - TP was a top PG for a very long time. I think that his stats/awards/longevity really show he should be in the HOF.
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Post by A. Silver on Jul 27, 2017 3:07:29 GMT
Keeping my vote as Yes for the Nets. He did enough on offense to go with his elite defense and team leadership to be considered a Hall of Famer in my book.
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Post by carmelo115 on Jul 27, 2017 14:49:25 GMT
voted no last time. voting no again
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Post by Matt [Minnesota Timberwolves] on Jul 28, 2017 16:07:33 GMT
Yes. I was his GM for the first run on the bulls. Great player.
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Post by yourkers15 on Aug 1, 2017 14:30:43 GMT
Going with yes. Without him I don't win some of my championships. He also was so consistent and did more good than bad for his team's.
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Post by rr1582 on Aug 2, 2017 10:39:51 GMT
Sticking with the yes vote that I had before. I don't really need to go back into my reasoning why...but basically it amounts to this the assist #'s are low for a PG, which made it incredibly difficult to gain recognition with awards. His Ast/TO ratio was awesome & he also was a fantastic defender(great pickpocket & almost always outplayed his opposing matchup when factoring in all aspects of the game). Also let's not forget he played during the era of the PG that has only now been surpassed by the current crop of dominant PG's...plus the overall scoring in the league has probably almost jumped 10 PPG or more leaguewide. Parker would almost be a Russell Westbrook with less TO's in the current era.
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