Post by Rog on Feb 7, 2018 12:20:03 GMT
The 110th nominee for the NBN Hall of Fame, Steph Curry, had some amazing seasons but seemingly was below the standards set by his real life counterpart and his #1 overall pick. Was he good enough to be a Hall of Famer, or do some of his overall flaws shine through for a case that falls short? Lets take a look.
Career Stats
36.1 MPG, 25.9 PPG, 8.5 APG, 5.1 RPG, 2.0 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 2.2 TOPG on 48.1% from the field, 91.5% from the line, and 44.4% from three
Best Season
Cleveland Cavaliers(2019) - 32.6 PPG, 9.1 APG, 5.5 RPG, 2.1 SPG, 0.1 BPG, 2.3 TOPG on 50.4% from the field, 93.6% from the line, and 46.5% from three
Career Highs
Points: 56
Rebounds: 15
Assists: 21
Steals: 10
Blocks: 3
Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 480
Player of the Week: 21
Player of the Month: 10
Double Doubles: 671
Triple Doubles: 35
All Time Leaderboard Rankings
Points - 5th
Steals - 4th
Three Pointers - 2nd
Games - 1st
Awards
2009 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2009 - Rookie of the Year
2009 - All-Rookie Team
2010 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2011 - All-Star Game Participant
2011 - All-League First Team
2013 - All-Star Game Participant
2013 - All-Star Game MVP
2013 - All-League Third Team
2014 - All-Star Game Participant
2016 - All-Star Game Participant
2016 - Most Valuable Player
2016 - All-League First Team
2017 - All-Star Game Participant
2017 - Most Valuable Player
2017 - All-League First Team
2019 - All-Star Game Participant
2019 - Most Valuable Player
2019 - All-League Second Team
2020 - All-Star Game Participant
2022 - All-Star Game Participant
2023 - All-Star Game Participant
2024 - All-Star Game Participant
Arguments For Induction
- I think a lot of people forget how great Steph Curry was, sometimes I feel like I personally few him as a disappointment, but his three MVPs tell a totally different picture. Yes I said Steph Curry was a THREE TIME MVP, I believe second most in history behind D'Angelo Russell but I'm not 100% sure on that. Beyond the MVPs, Curry appeared in ten All-Star Games, winning the MVP of those games once. He also had five All-League nominations, being three 1st teams, one 2nd team, and one 3rd team.
- With Steph you can't help but start with anything besides his incredible shooting. You thought Jennings had some amazing percentages, Curry tops those with a 48.1/91.5/44.4 line that puts Jennings to shame. He had some elite years too, with a couple seasons over 50% from the field and a handful of seasons over 46% from three. That three point number is even more impressive when you considered he made the second most 3s in league history. Absolutely incredible.
- Not only was he proficient at hitting shots, he was amazing at hitting a ton of them shown well by the fact that he finished his career 5th All Time in points. Despite his last four seasons not quite being up to his best, he still averaged 25.9 points per game for his career. That number has to be pretty high on an All-Time list, not to mention for guys that played for 20 seasons as well. He never really hit a huge cliff until his last two seasons. In fact, besides those last two years he never dipped under 19.7 points per game and when he got started as a superstar, starting in his 5th season, he had twelve seasons over 26 points per game. That is absolutely incredible considering again that those seasons were IN A ROW. He was one of the best scorers in league history.
- I didn't even ask for it from A. Silver but I imagine Curry also appeared pretty high on the assist leaderboard too considering his longevity and the fact that despite a late career change to shooting guard, Curry still averaged 8.5 assists for his career. He could really spin it as his 3.9 to 1 assist to turnover ratio is incredibly impressive considering his volume scoring, only averaging 2.2 turnovers for his career. He had eight seasons in his career over 9.5 assists, which would have put him pretty easily on the top 10 leaderboard in those seasons. A historic scorer plus a great passer, Curry was absolutely amazing offensively.
- Defensively Curry wasn't nearly as good as he was offensively, but he still held his own finishing 4th in steals All-Time as well as well as holding an A- or better rating most of his career. He had 11 years where he averaged 2 steals or more a game, a solid benchmark for Curry to reach.
- Overall, there is no case that makes sense to go against a three time MVP, who has four All Time Leaderboard top 5 stats, including playing the most games in league history. He was durable, an elite scorer, a great passer, a good defender, and the guy was a good rebounder for a point guard as well with a 5.1 career average and 35 triple doubles to his name. He was one of the best point guards in the leagues history. You simply don't deny a guy with these good of stats, this amazing of longevity and a guy who had one of the best peaks in league history. He is a Hall of Famer, period.
Arguments Against Induction
- There isn't much to say here. He missed out on some awards in his career, with only five All-League nominations which is a quarter of the seasons he played. Plus he was only an All-Star in half his seasons. He never won a title despite some amazing seasons with Jcog. And he was forced to make a late in career position change to shooting guard, proving he probably has some of these high rankings despite playing too long and hurting his teams in the process. All this adds up to pushing him down an All-Time ranking list, but nothing I can say keeps him out of the Hall of Fame, at all.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $25 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $25***
Career Stats
36.1 MPG, 25.9 PPG, 8.5 APG, 5.1 RPG, 2.0 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 2.2 TOPG on 48.1% from the field, 91.5% from the line, and 44.4% from three
Best Season
Cleveland Cavaliers(2019) - 32.6 PPG, 9.1 APG, 5.5 RPG, 2.1 SPG, 0.1 BPG, 2.3 TOPG on 50.4% from the field, 93.6% from the line, and 46.5% from three
Career Highs
Points: 56
Rebounds: 15
Assists: 21
Steals: 10
Blocks: 3
Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 480
Player of the Week: 21
Player of the Month: 10
Double Doubles: 671
Triple Doubles: 35
All Time Leaderboard Rankings
Points - 5th
Steals - 4th
Three Pointers - 2nd
Games - 1st
Awards
2009 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2009 - Rookie of the Year
2009 - All-Rookie Team
2010 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2011 - All-Star Game Participant
2011 - All-League First Team
2013 - All-Star Game Participant
2013 - All-Star Game MVP
2013 - All-League Third Team
2014 - All-Star Game Participant
2016 - All-Star Game Participant
2016 - Most Valuable Player
2016 - All-League First Team
2017 - All-Star Game Participant
2017 - Most Valuable Player
2017 - All-League First Team
2019 - All-Star Game Participant
2019 - Most Valuable Player
2019 - All-League Second Team
2020 - All-Star Game Participant
2022 - All-Star Game Participant
2023 - All-Star Game Participant
2024 - All-Star Game Participant
Arguments For Induction
- I think a lot of people forget how great Steph Curry was, sometimes I feel like I personally few him as a disappointment, but his three MVPs tell a totally different picture. Yes I said Steph Curry was a THREE TIME MVP, I believe second most in history behind D'Angelo Russell but I'm not 100% sure on that. Beyond the MVPs, Curry appeared in ten All-Star Games, winning the MVP of those games once. He also had five All-League nominations, being three 1st teams, one 2nd team, and one 3rd team.
- With Steph you can't help but start with anything besides his incredible shooting. You thought Jennings had some amazing percentages, Curry tops those with a 48.1/91.5/44.4 line that puts Jennings to shame. He had some elite years too, with a couple seasons over 50% from the field and a handful of seasons over 46% from three. That three point number is even more impressive when you considered he made the second most 3s in league history. Absolutely incredible.
- Not only was he proficient at hitting shots, he was amazing at hitting a ton of them shown well by the fact that he finished his career 5th All Time in points. Despite his last four seasons not quite being up to his best, he still averaged 25.9 points per game for his career. That number has to be pretty high on an All-Time list, not to mention for guys that played for 20 seasons as well. He never really hit a huge cliff until his last two seasons. In fact, besides those last two years he never dipped under 19.7 points per game and when he got started as a superstar, starting in his 5th season, he had twelve seasons over 26 points per game. That is absolutely incredible considering again that those seasons were IN A ROW. He was one of the best scorers in league history.
- I didn't even ask for it from A. Silver but I imagine Curry also appeared pretty high on the assist leaderboard too considering his longevity and the fact that despite a late career change to shooting guard, Curry still averaged 8.5 assists for his career. He could really spin it as his 3.9 to 1 assist to turnover ratio is incredibly impressive considering his volume scoring, only averaging 2.2 turnovers for his career. He had eight seasons in his career over 9.5 assists, which would have put him pretty easily on the top 10 leaderboard in those seasons. A historic scorer plus a great passer, Curry was absolutely amazing offensively.
- Defensively Curry wasn't nearly as good as he was offensively, but he still held his own finishing 4th in steals All-Time as well as well as holding an A- or better rating most of his career. He had 11 years where he averaged 2 steals or more a game, a solid benchmark for Curry to reach.
- Overall, there is no case that makes sense to go against a three time MVP, who has four All Time Leaderboard top 5 stats, including playing the most games in league history. He was durable, an elite scorer, a great passer, a good defender, and the guy was a good rebounder for a point guard as well with a 5.1 career average and 35 triple doubles to his name. He was one of the best point guards in the leagues history. You simply don't deny a guy with these good of stats, this amazing of longevity and a guy who had one of the best peaks in league history. He is a Hall of Famer, period.
Arguments Against Induction
- There isn't much to say here. He missed out on some awards in his career, with only five All-League nominations which is a quarter of the seasons he played. Plus he was only an All-Star in half his seasons. He never won a title despite some amazing seasons with Jcog. And he was forced to make a late in career position change to shooting guard, proving he probably has some of these high rankings despite playing too long and hurting his teams in the process. All this adds up to pushing him down an All-Time ranking list, but nothing I can say keeps him out of the Hall of Fame, at all.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $25 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $25***
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