2036 Hall of Fame Nominee - Isaiah Hartenstein

[Donny - Bucks]

The 133rd nominee of the NBN Hall of Fame ended up being one of the most dominant players of his era, landing in the top 25 of just about everything that's important for a big man. Hartenstein came into the league as a highly regarded player and met every expectation possible, bouncing around the second half of his career but always performing to the best of his ability. Was he good enough to get into the Hall?

Career Stats
1,468 games - 22.3 points per game, 12.2 rebounds per game, 1.7 assists per game, 1.1 steals per game, 1.3 blocks per game, 2.0 turnovers per game on 45.2% shooting from the field, 71.7% shooting from the line, and 41.5% from three.

Best Season
2023 Rockets - 82 games ~ 30.2 points per game, 13.8 rebounds per game, 2.2 assists per game, 1.4 steals per game, 1.4 blocks per game, 2.4 turnovers per game on 46.3% shooting from the field, 72.9% shooting form the line, and 44.4% shooting from three.

Career Highs
Points: 53
Rebounds: 29
Assists: 8
Steals: 5
Blocks: 7

Achievements
Championships: 1
Player of the Game: 150
Player of the Week: 2
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 1034
Triple Doubles: 0

Career Leaderboard Rankings
Games - 11
Points - 20
Rebounds - 3
Double Doubles - 3
Field Goals - 22
Free Throws - 8

Awards
2017 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2017 - All-Rookie Team
2018 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2021 - All-League Third Team
2023 - All-League Third Team
2024 - All-Star Game Participant
2025 - All-League Third Team
2026 - All-Star Game Participant
2026 - All-League Second Team
2027 - All-League Third Team
2029 - All-Star Game Participant



Arguments For Induction
- Frankly, I'm almost surprised that Hartenstein was THIS good over his career. Hartenstein made 45% of his shots over his career, shooting over 26,000 times. Averaging 22 and 12 is great, but considering the fact that he spent the last three seasons of his career on bench roles in non-contender teams, so he'd likely be about 25 and 13 for his prime. That's nuts for a big.
- Hartenstein shot really well from three as a big too. 41.5% from three over his career on a large sample size of 3,600 shots from three, showing off pure dominance over his career from the outside as well as the inside.
- Plenty of All-League teams, over 1,000 double doubles, 150 player of the game awards, even a few player of the weeks in there. Oh, and a championship to make his case even stronger.
- Longevity. Dominant from start to finish of his career, regardless of the role. 14.7/9.8 in his last year on a mediocre team with no help.

Arguments Against Induction
- Turnovers? He turned the puck over 2 times per game over his career, which isn't exactly ideal.
- Never won a player of the month award. 
- Somehow never managed a triple double over 1,468 games.

Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.

***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $25 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $25***

[Donny - Bucks]

Hartenstein's Player Page - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/2036/html/players/player320.htm

[pjclippers]

Jan 12, 2019 22:41:37 GMT Donny - Bucks said:

Hartenstein's Player Page - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/2036/html/players/player320.htm

Might want to add the voting poll in lol

[Donny - Bucks]

Jan 12, 2019 22:59:39 GMT pjclippers said:

Jan 12, 2019 22:41:37 GMT Donny - Bucks said:

Hartenstein's Player Page - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/2036/html/players/player320.htm

Might want to add the voting poll in lol

shhh you saw nothing

[pjclippers]

Solid stretch four for many years and one of the best outside shooting bigs the league has ever seen. Also a prolific rebounder and while not a great shotblocker and turned it over a bit much he is still an easy pick to enter the Hall as a member of the Rockets.

[Rog]

Easiest yes ever. Well not really, but a very easy yes. top 20 in 4 categories, a 5th as 22nd. His career numbers would be career years for almost all bigs in the league right now. You wish he would have been involved in winning a bit more, but he does have a title. And something people will forget that I think should count here since it happened during his career and was actually him, he was the best player in FIBA history too. Legit led Germany basically by himself to a title and rampages through every tournanment he was a part of. Just a great player and voted for him to go in as a Rocket as well.

[lynchcats]

Yeah Hartenstein is a definite yes in. One of the best bigs to ever play the game in the league. While there are only three All-Star berths on his resume, the fact that he was still able to make five All-League teams just shows how deep the position was in the Western Conference when he played. He's a definite NBN Legend.

[A. Silver]

Probably the best stretch 4 we've ever had in the league, he was a superstar for a long, long time. Easy yes.

[Charles]

Big yes. I loved the guy for when I had him

[ucfinfan86]

Yes, quite a scorer for a big man. Put up a double-double for me late in his career still.

[frosty]

Everyone else is voting yes and due to my fear of not fitting in I also will be voting yes

[vanimmer]

easy yes for the Rockets

[JCog72]

Yes from me to Houston, was a very good stretch 4 and one of the best scorers ever at the 4/5

[don1955]

i drafted him hoping he would turn out ok, i think he did ok

[verysilentone]

Yes for me also