Post by Donny - Bucks on Mar 2, 2019 3:15:04 GMT
The next nominee of the NBN Hall of Fame was an absolute journeyman throughout his career, playing for the Sixers, Hornets, Nuggets, Clippers, Sonics, Wizards, and Celtics throughout his career. His peak came very early in his career and died off a bit later in his career, but he ended up with a very respectable stat line. Was it enough to get into the Hall?
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/2037/html/players/player136.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 1,295
MPG: 31.6
PPG: 18.4
RPG: 12.4
APG: 1.1
SPG: 0.6
BPG: 2.1
TOPG: 1.3
FG%: .464
FT%: .884
3P%: .250
Best Season (2024 Hornets)
Games: 79
MPG: 35.8
PPG: 25.2
RPG: 14.7
APG: 1.6
SPG: 0.8
BPG: 3.1
TOPG: 1.9
FG %: .466
FT %: .907
3P %: .000
Career Highs:
Points: 54
Rebounds: 32
Assists: 7
Steals: 5
Blocks: 10
Achievements
Championships: 1
Player of the Game: 170
Player of the Week: 6
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 878
Triple Doubles: 1
Career Leaderboard Rankings
Rebounds - 13
Blocks - 39
Double Doubles - 8
Awards
2018 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2019 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2019 - Sixth Man of the Year
2020 - All-Star Game Participant
2021 - All-Star Game Participant
2022 - All-Star Game Participant
2023 - All-Star Game Participant
2023 - All-League First Team
2024 - All-Star Game Participant
2024 - All-League First Team
2025 - All-League Third Team
2027 - All-Star Game Participant
2027 - All-League Third Team
2029 - All-Star Game Participant
Arguments For Induction
- The leaderboard rankings don't lie. 13th in rebounds, 39th in blocks, and 8th in double doubles. Longevity helped a ton, but he was a tremendous rebounder and ended up being pretty good putting up numbers over his carer.
- Still put up big numbers off the bench. Averaged about 12/9 in a bench role his last few seasons between 2033-2035.
- One of the best late firsts ever to go in the draft. Quite a few all-star games and all-league teams definitely help his case, along with a championship and a ton of double doubles and player of the game awards.
Aruments Against Induction
- He's built a strong campaign, but is what he did enough? Rebounded well, blocked at an above-average level, scored well, but it's not like he did anything at an insane rate for his entire career. Peak was great, but the rest of his career is more "very good" than anything else.
- Achievements are fine and good, but is it enough? Four all-leagues is solid and some all-star appearances, but how do we rationalize that considering the rest of the Hall of Famers?
- Never stuck on one team for more than four or five years as a member of a roster, and while he was always a good player, never essential to his roster in the long run.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $25 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $25***
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/2037/html/players/player136.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 1,295
MPG: 31.6
PPG: 18.4
RPG: 12.4
APG: 1.1
SPG: 0.6
BPG: 2.1
TOPG: 1.3
FG%: .464
FT%: .884
3P%: .250
Best Season (2024 Hornets)
Games: 79
MPG: 35.8
PPG: 25.2
RPG: 14.7
APG: 1.6
SPG: 0.8
BPG: 3.1
TOPG: 1.9
FG %: .466
FT %: .907
3P %: .000
Career Highs:
Points: 54
Rebounds: 32
Assists: 7
Steals: 5
Blocks: 10
Achievements
Championships: 1
Player of the Game: 170
Player of the Week: 6
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 878
Triple Doubles: 1
Career Leaderboard Rankings
Rebounds - 13
Blocks - 39
Double Doubles - 8
Awards
2018 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2019 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2019 - Sixth Man of the Year
2020 - All-Star Game Participant
2021 - All-Star Game Participant
2022 - All-Star Game Participant
2023 - All-Star Game Participant
2023 - All-League First Team
2024 - All-Star Game Participant
2024 - All-League First Team
2025 - All-League Third Team
2027 - All-Star Game Participant
2027 - All-League Third Team
2029 - All-Star Game Participant
Arguments For Induction
- The leaderboard rankings don't lie. 13th in rebounds, 39th in blocks, and 8th in double doubles. Longevity helped a ton, but he was a tremendous rebounder and ended up being pretty good putting up numbers over his carer.
- Still put up big numbers off the bench. Averaged about 12/9 in a bench role his last few seasons between 2033-2035.
- One of the best late firsts ever to go in the draft. Quite a few all-star games and all-league teams definitely help his case, along with a championship and a ton of double doubles and player of the game awards.
Aruments Against Induction
- He's built a strong campaign, but is what he did enough? Rebounded well, blocked at an above-average level, scored well, but it's not like he did anything at an insane rate for his entire career. Peak was great, but the rest of his career is more "very good" than anything else.
- Achievements are fine and good, but is it enough? Four all-leagues is solid and some all-star appearances, but how do we rationalize that considering the rest of the Hall of Famers?
- Never stuck on one team for more than four or five years as a member of a roster, and while he was always a good player, never essential to his roster in the long run.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $25 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $25***