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Post by thefirstcedi on Jun 13, 2019 20:19:59 GMT
Oh no turnovers... wtf. Jalen isn't even a top 100 player. Not even a top 100 player. That’s laughable Is it? He'd start on maybe one other playoff team and your team barely qualifies as a playoff team. Above average scorer but below average as a rebounder with horrible handles. A+ defense means nothing with only 1.6 spg and no blocks. He is just a decent sixth man on a good team.
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Post by SpikeLee14 on Jun 13, 2019 20:24:25 GMT
Not even a top 100 player. That’s laughable Is it? He'd start on maybe one other playoff team and your team barely qualifies as a playoff team. Above average scorer but below average as a rebounder with horrible handles. A+ defense means nothing with only 1.6 spg and no blocks. He is just a decent sixth man on a good team. He has the exact same stats but better shooting numbers than two people that made too 27. Sure his TOS are higher but to say a 23 year old who averages 25-7-4 is a 6th man at best is what is laughable
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Post by SpikeLee14 on Jun 13, 2019 20:28:07 GMT
Not even a top 100 player. That’s laughable Is it? He'd start on maybe one other playoff team and your team barely qualifies as a playoff team. Above average scorer but below average as a rebounder with horrible handles. A+ defense means nothing with only 1.6 spg and no blocks. He is just a decent sixth man on a good team. And to say below average as a rebounder is weird because not many teams can say their SG grabs 7.2 rebounds per game or has 3 bigs who average more than 10 Rebounds per game. Just cause his numbers are low in certain categories means he’s bad
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Post by Rog on Jun 13, 2019 21:32:56 GMT
Is it? He'd start on maybe one other playoff team and your team barely qualifies as a playoff team. Above average scorer but below average as a rebounder with horrible handles. A+ defense means nothing with only 1.6 spg and no blocks. He is just a decent sixth man on a good team. And to say below average as a rebounder is weird because not many teams can say their SG grabs 7.2 rebounds per game or has 3 bigs who average more than 10 Rebounds per game. Just cause his numbers are low in certain categories means he’s bad Lmfao that is exactly what it means, what do you mean? You are a middle of the pack rebounding team, his rebounds aren't lower because of the pieces around him, they are lower because hes not great there. The rating is very straight forward, way more than others. It literally is "how good are your rebounding ratings, oh they are average, okay the rating is average" and at this point in the league C+ is average for a SF. 7.5 is average for a SF. The turnovers are a huge issue. You can't compare him to others on this list minus a select few, because the vast majority of this list contains players that are on teams that will finish with 50 wins or more, and your team at best finishes around 42 wins, give or take a win or two. You are bottom half in scoring, yet he only is able to get 25 points a game? Means hes around a 22 point guy on a contending team. He shoots the ball well, but something is wrong under the hood because he should be shooting way more on your team. I would not go as far as Cedi to say that he is "not a top 100 player" and "a decent sixth man on a good team", but hes not a top 5 SF in the league IMO and doesn't touch the top 25, I would not put him ahead of anyone on this list at the moment except maybe Guerin and Russell.
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Post by SpikeLee14 on Jun 13, 2019 21:56:18 GMT
And to say below average as a rebounder is weird because not many teams can say their SG grabs 7.2 rebounds per game or has 3 bigs who average more than 10 Rebounds per game. Just cause his numbers are low in certain categories means he’s bad Lmfao that is exactly what it means, what do you mean? You are a middle of the pack rebounding team, his rebounds aren't lower because of the pieces around him, they are lower because hes not great there. The rating is very straight forward, way more than others. It literally is "how good are your rebounding ratings, oh they are average, okay the rating is average" and at this point in the league C+ is average for a SF. 7.5 is average for a SF. The turnovers are a huge issue. You can't compare him to others on this list minus a select few, because the vast majority of this list contains players that are on teams that will finish with 50 wins or more, and your team at best finishes around 42 wins, give or take a win or two. You are bottom half in scoring, yet he only is able to get 25 points a game? Means hes around a 22 point guy on a contending team. He shoots the ball well, but something is wrong under the hood because he should be shooting way more on your team. I would not go as far as Cedi to say that he is "not a top 100 player" and "a decent sixth man on a good team", but hes not a top 5 SF in the league IMO and doesn't touch the top 25, I would not put him ahead of anyone on this list at the moment except maybe Guerin and Russell. Well if you read what I said I only said he should have a vote with two people one of them being Richie. I get I’m not a 50 win team but it doesn’t mean I can’t stand up for a 23 year old SF. Also never once said he was a top 5 SF. Give him 6 more years to grow and have TC maybe he’s above Richie and others. My point to this is I think youth with how he scores should get graded differently but people just look at TOS and say no. Maybe in 6 years he’s TO get down around 2 and his scoring and rebounding go up. I’m saying for now being 23 compared to some 29 year olds and having identical stats I am just arguing for a vote
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Post by frosty on Jun 13, 2019 22:09:23 GMT
Ivo got overrated. He's having a good year but his whole career he's been an Everett Case level guy. He's not better than Maguire, Giannakis, or McAdoo.
I offered Jalen+ last year for Yardley to take a chance on him. He looks like he could still be good but yea he doesn't really deserve a vote here. Theres the guys on the list at his position that are better and also Modestas/Zoran/Hagan/Chia/Calder/Fuzzy that are probably better as well. If he's not even top 10 at the position I'm not sure he deserves votes here.
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Post by Rog on Jun 26, 2019 2:26:42 GMT
Hornets $1800(my extra percentage article of the year)+$300 for list Mavericks $300 Clippers $300 Warriors $300 Sonics $300 Nuggets $300 Knicks $300 Nets $300 Raptors $300 Pacers $300 Pistons $300 Grizzlies $25 Blazers $25 Suns $50 Wizards $25 Celtics $50
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Post by Rog on Jun 26, 2019 2:28:57 GMT
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