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Post by Donny - Bucks on Feb 13, 2021 22:55:43 GMT
None of his youth is camped and neither of those guys fit his timeline. He’d be better off camping his guys and tanking rather than giving picks for low end starters (at their very best... finding a SG who does 16 PPG per 36 is so easy). I know and you got 2 firsts for one of them. Tyler Herro 82 games played 38.2 MPG 23.0 PPG 5.2 RPG 1.5 APG 1.9 StocksPG .474/.910/.407 Let's stop acting like Kapranov can score at this level, rebound at this level, defend at this level. Herro would've helped you win games rather than your rotation. 8.5.7 |
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Post by Rog on Feb 13, 2021 22:55:44 GMT
Veto. This is fucking trash.
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Post by yourkers15 on Feb 13, 2021 23:03:43 GMT
I know and you got 2 firsts for one of them. Tyler Herro 82 games played 38.2 MPG 23.0 PPG 5.2 RPG 1.5 APG 1.9 StocksPG .474/.910/.407 Let's stop acting like Kapranov can score at this level, rebound at this level, defend at this level. Herro would've helped you win games rather than your rotation. 8.5.7 Thats on a lotto team. Your point? Thats a player that shouldn't of gotten 2 picks back. He wouldn't start over lebron or Guerrero and yeah he would be a great bench piece. |
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Feb 13, 2021 23:07:21 GMT
Tyler Herro 82 games played 38.2 MPG 23.0 PPG 5.2 RPG 1.5 APG 1.9 StocksPG .474/.910/.407 Let's stop acting like Kapranov can score at this level, rebound at this level, defend at this level. Herro would've helped you win games rather than your rotation. 8.5.7 Thats on a lotto team. Your point? Thats a player that shouldn't of gotten 2 picks back. He wouldn't start over lebron or Guerrero and yeah he would be a great bench piece. Hes better than Guerrero is right now. Not really rocket science. |
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Feb 13, 2021 23:08:29 GMT
Also, not sure where you come up with your player valuations but for a top 10 SG in a league where you need a top 10 SG to win or else you’ll get toasted (as it happened to multiple teams without a top 10 SG) in the playoffs...
Might want to value SGs more!
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Post by yourkers15 on Feb 13, 2021 23:09:12 GMT
Thats on a lotto team. Your point? Thats a player that shouldn't of gotten 2 picks back. He wouldn't start over lebron or Guerrero and yeah he would be a great bench piece. Hes better than Guerrero is right now. Not really rocket science. Guerrero is all defensive team. A plus rebounder and shot just fine as a 2nd year player. So yeah I will take all the plus Guerrero has over Herro any day of the week. |
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Post by Rog on Feb 13, 2021 23:11:42 GMT
Thats on a lotto team. Your point? Thats a player that shouldn't of gotten 2 picks back. He wouldn't start over lebron or Guerrero and yeah he would be a great bench piece. Hes better than Guerrero is right now. Not really rocket science. Not gonna lie, even if we take Herro's stats at face value and dismiss those came on a bad Mavs team, I'd still take Guerrero right now. +2 rebounds, +.8 stocks, +2.2 assists. I love Herro, but Guerrero fits the Jazz roster better given their emphasis on defense. |
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Feb 13, 2021 23:12:50 GMT
Hes better than Guerrero is right now. Not really rocket science. Not gonna lie, even if we take Herro's stats at face value and dismiss those came on a bad Mavs team, I'd still take Guerrero right now. +2 rebounds, +.8 stocks, +2.2 assists. I love Herro, but Guerrero fits the Jazz roster better given their emphasis on defense. Those Jazz needed scoring and didn’t have a second option on their roster. Herro is probably a better defender attribute wise with worse stock production, too. |
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Post by Rog on Feb 13, 2021 23:14:11 GMT
Not gonna lie, even if we take Herro's stats at face value and dismiss those came on a bad Mavs team, I'd still take Guerrero right now. +2 rebounds, +.8 stocks, +2.2 assists. I love Herro, but Guerrero fits the Jazz roster better given their emphasis on defense. Those Jazz needed scoring and didn’t have a second option on their roster. Herro is probably a better defender attribute wise with worse stock production, too. And Per D is near worthless, your point? |
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Feb 13, 2021 23:15:13 GMT
Those Jazz needed scoring and didn’t have a second option on their roster. Herro is probably a better defender attribute wise with worse stock production, too. And Per D is near worthless, your point? Disagree with that for sure. Stocks aren’t the be all end all when your guy can’t defend. |
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Post by yourkers15 on Feb 13, 2021 23:15:50 GMT
Not gonna lie, even if we take Herro's stats at face value and dismiss those came on a bad Mavs team, I'd still take Guerrero right now. +2 rebounds, +.8 stocks, +2.2 assists. I love Herro, but Guerrero fits the Jazz roster better given their emphasis on defense. Those Jazz needed scoring and didn’t have a second option on their roster. Herro is probably a better defender attribute wise with worse stock production, too. Youre right i didn't have a 2nd option as my roster is building right. Do you think switching Guerrero for Herro would of beat the Warriors? Cuz I don't see it. |
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Post by Rog on Feb 13, 2021 23:17:32 GMT
And Per D is near worthless, your point? Disagree with that for sure. Stocks aren’t the be all end all when your guy can’t defend. In numbers/counting game where all that really matters is possessions as long as you can actually score some, stocks are absolutely the be all end all. |
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Post by Rog on Feb 13, 2021 23:18:53 GMT
Those Jazz needed scoring and didn’t have a second option on their roster. Herro is probably a better defender attribute wise with worse stock production, too. Youre right i didn't have a 2nd option as my roster is building right. Do you think switching Guerrero for Herro would of beat the Warriors? Cuz I don't see it. I'd still argue you get worse with Herro. You lose nearly 3 possessions a game going to Herro, due to the additional turnovers, less rebounds, and less stocks. Even with slightly better scoring, you still lose out on some scoring with the reduced possessions in the switch. |
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Post by A. Silver on Feb 13, 2021 23:21:38 GMT
This trade has been officially vetoed.
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Feb 13, 2021 23:28:54 GMT
Youre right i didn't have a 2nd option as my roster is building right. Do you think switching Guerrero for Herro would of beat the Warriors? Cuz I don't see it. I'd still argue you get worse with Herro. You lose nearly 3 possessions a game going to Herro, due to the additional turnovers, less rebounds, and less stocks. Even with slightly better scoring, you still lose out on some scoring with the reduced possessions in the switch. I don’t think that necessarily is the truth. Just because Herro isn’t grabbing rebounds doesn’t mean someone else is? I wouldn’t automatically attribute that as a loss. Steals and turnovers sure. Idk, there’s a lot of moving parts but I’d definitely prefer Herro’s scoring @ the %’s. |
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