2035 Hall of Fame Nominee - James Wiseman

[Donny - Bucks]

As one of the bigs from the early classes, Wiseman aged into the league, performing as well as most dominant bigs do over multiple high-paid, dominant seasons. Will this be enough for him to get into the NBN Hall of Fame?

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CAREER STATS
Games: 1163
MPG: 34.8
PPG: 20.8
RPG: 12.4
APG: 1.6
SPG: 0.9
BPG: 2.3
TOPG: 2.1
FG%: .454
FT%: .674 
3P%: .128

Best Season (2029 Wizards)
Games: 79
MPG: 37.5
PPG: 27.7
RPG: 14.0
APG: 1.8
SPG: 1.0
BPG: 3.2
TOPG: 2.2 
FG%: .498
FT%: .689
3P%: .000

Career Highs
Points: 54
Rebounds: 27
Assists: 7
Steals: 5
Blocks: 11

Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 187
Player of the Week: 4
Player of the Month: 1
Double Doubles: 813
Triple Doubles: 1

Awards
2020 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2020 - All-Rookie Team
2021 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2029 - All-Star Game Participant
2029 - All-League First Team



Arguments For Induction
- The stats truly do not lie. 20.8/12.4/3.2 stock player on 45.4% from the field is pretty, pretty, pretty good. Wiseman put up 20/13 seasons like it was nothing and was even an All-Leaguer late in his career even after the KAT reign of terror was complete.

- Unlike many other players, Wiseman didn't have the drop off that you'd usually see in a Hall of Fame candidate. He knew when to give it up and his worst non-rookie contract year was a 19.1/10.6/2.6 stock season on 43.6% from the field, which is really good for bigs around here.

- He's a very elite rebounder, high powered offensive contributor at a position completely devoid of those guys other than a select few, great defender (11 years of 2+ blocks and 2.9 stocks), and he even was efficient enough all-around to where you never really felt significant flaws.

Arguments Against Induction
- No title! Wiseman spent a ton of time in Washington and Indiana on less-than-admirable teams and was one of those guys who just got max'd and never had much around him. He was quite talented but he never really had any positive gains around him.

- Not a lot awards wise. A few All-Star Rookie Games, an All-Star Game, and an All-League First Team is it. 813 double doubles, 1 triple double, 1 POTM, 4 POTW's, 187 POTG's... a little bit weak.

- How good is Wiseman compared to other Hall of Famers? I'm not sure how well he matches up to some of the league's HOF'ers, including a guy like Marvin Bagley who put up less stats but did much, much more in terms of awards. He's certainly not on the level of KAT or Mitchell Robinson, in my opinion at least.

Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.

***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***

[carlos]

I voted no even though I'd love to see a Wizard in the Hall.

Wiseman was great in his prime and was the best big in the league the year I joined but he was always on average teams, didn't get enough awards, and was never an elite defensive big to make up for it. I think he's a great player who is right around Chet-level. Chet is borderline with the titles so I think Wiseman would miss.

[ucfinfan86]

This is tough. The lack of awards are tough to vote yes. He was never the best center in the league but was firmly in that 2nd tier. He was behind KAT/AD/Allen/Mitchell early and then guys like KAJ/Ritter/Gilmore passed him late.

He put up some nice stats on bad teams and was overpaid. Had he been on a contender on a better contract he probably would be an easier yes.

Going to go no, but I see reasoning for yes

[A. Silver]

Nah, he was solid but not great.

[A. Silver]

Actually looking at his stats I'm going to vote yes. Even though his big scoring numbers came from bad offensive teams, they still count. The only big men with more points scored than him are Zion and Markkanen. Combine that with borderline great rebounding and solid defense and you have a HOFer.

[A. Silver]

4th all time in rebounds
8th all time in blocks
4th all time double doubles

[frosty]

Gonna vote no due to awards but silver makes a good case. Thought hed have more awards. Think if you ran his career 100 times he comes out with more awards more often than not

[carmelo115]

Lack of awards make no sense and if i'm going to stay consistent with my reasonings then I have to go NO

[josephballin11]

Yes for me. I think if he had played 2 more seasons it would have been a no doubter. He was really good for a long time, and his peak was the best in the league.

[cop5414]

No. 3P% is shit.

[mcmuslim]

Agree with Uc here. He was an awesome big but the lack of awards are honestly really shocking. I thought he'd have a lot more. Gonna be no for me

[vanimmer]

Voting yes here
He had a very good and consistent carreer just up till the end.

[Donny - Bucks]

Voted yes. Think he deserves more respect out of these votes.

[ucfinfan86]

I’m just salty he blossomed after I traded him

[SpikeLee14]

Voted no. Great big and a solid scorer but he’s accolades just don’t scream HOF