Post by Donny - Bucks on Sept 28, 2021 16:50:38 GMT
De'Aaron Fox is an interesting case, spending a ton of his career with the same Clippers team as a high-end, but not super elite PG. Will this be enough for him to get into the NBN Hall of Fame?
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2034/html/players/player404.htm
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CAREER STATS
Games: 1157
MPG: 35.3
PPG: 18.4
RPG: 5.0
APG: 8.6
SPG: 2.1
BPG: 0.3
TOPG: 3.7
FG%: .449
FT%: .750
3P%: .382
Best Season (2024 Clippers)
Games: 82
MPG: 39.0
PPG: 23.6
RPG: 6.3
APG: 9.7
SPG: 2.8
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 4.3
FG%: .472
FT%: .758
3P%: .408
Career Highs:
Points: 45
Rebounds: 13
Assists: 21
Steals: 8
Blocks: 3
Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 242
Player of the Week: 10
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 503
Triple Doubles: 35
Awards
2021 - All-League Third Team
2021 - All-Defensive Team
2022 - All-Defensive Team
2023 - All-Star Game Participant
2024 - All-Star Game Participant
Arguments For Induction
- Fox was a numbers guy. Not only did he score very well for a large part of his career, he was always a 9.5+ APG guy, as his 503 double doubles show. Pair that with a consistent 21+ PPG during his prime and he was one of the more high-end, high-level PG's in the league for many years from the beginning of the league.
- Fox was a terrific defender and managed to have 12 years of 2+ stocks at the beginning of the league, adding on a 13th in his 14th season. Multiple All-Defense teams will affirm just how good Fox was as an all-around player for a very long time.
- Finally, he was a pretty efficient scorer and was always a net positive for his teams, even if he never won a ring. He had many years where he was a 45% or better shooter and was even a semi-efficient three point shooter, while always making up for his turnovers with stocks and assist numbers that would make them a non-issue in the long run. He was a terrific talent and was always producing for his teams.
Arguments Against Induction
- No ring will hurt the case a lot. He spent many years in LA with the Clippers during their strong playoff contention period and then at the end while they fell apart and hit the tank, but he could never manage to get it done even when the Clippers were a high-end contender.
- Had Fox not rode the bench for a few years at the end of his career, he'd likely be something like 21/9.5/3 stock player who could very well be argued as a Hall of Famer without much question. Now, it's a bit more difficult considering his end-stats are at 18.4/8.6/2.4 which is not nearly as intriguing as the aforementioned stat line.
- Light awards and achievements are a big L around here and I think a lot of the posts will bring that to light. 242 POTG's and 10 POTW's is nothing to sneeze at, but no All-League teams outside of one year in 2021 and only two ASG's definitely doesn't help the cause.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2034/html/players/player404.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 1157
MPG: 35.3
PPG: 18.4
RPG: 5.0
APG: 8.6
SPG: 2.1
BPG: 0.3
TOPG: 3.7
FG%: .449
FT%: .750
3P%: .382
Best Season (2024 Clippers)
Games: 82
MPG: 39.0
PPG: 23.6
RPG: 6.3
APG: 9.7
SPG: 2.8
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 4.3
FG%: .472
FT%: .758
3P%: .408
Career Highs:
Points: 45
Rebounds: 13
Assists: 21
Steals: 8
Blocks: 3
Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 242
Player of the Week: 10
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 503
Triple Doubles: 35
Awards
2021 - All-League Third Team
2021 - All-Defensive Team
2022 - All-Defensive Team
2023 - All-Star Game Participant
2024 - All-Star Game Participant
Arguments For Induction
- Fox was a numbers guy. Not only did he score very well for a large part of his career, he was always a 9.5+ APG guy, as his 503 double doubles show. Pair that with a consistent 21+ PPG during his prime and he was one of the more high-end, high-level PG's in the league for many years from the beginning of the league.
- Fox was a terrific defender and managed to have 12 years of 2+ stocks at the beginning of the league, adding on a 13th in his 14th season. Multiple All-Defense teams will affirm just how good Fox was as an all-around player for a very long time.
- Finally, he was a pretty efficient scorer and was always a net positive for his teams, even if he never won a ring. He had many years where he was a 45% or better shooter and was even a semi-efficient three point shooter, while always making up for his turnovers with stocks and assist numbers that would make them a non-issue in the long run. He was a terrific talent and was always producing for his teams.
Arguments Against Induction
- No ring will hurt the case a lot. He spent many years in LA with the Clippers during their strong playoff contention period and then at the end while they fell apart and hit the tank, but he could never manage to get it done even when the Clippers were a high-end contender.
- Had Fox not rode the bench for a few years at the end of his career, he'd likely be something like 21/9.5/3 stock player who could very well be argued as a Hall of Famer without much question. Now, it's a bit more difficult considering his end-stats are at 18.4/8.6/2.4 which is not nearly as intriguing as the aforementioned stat line.
- Light awards and achievements are a big L around here and I think a lot of the posts will bring that to light. 242 POTG's and 10 POTW's is nothing to sneeze at, but no All-League teams outside of one year in 2021 and only two ASG's definitely doesn't help the cause.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***
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