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Post by yourkers15 on Dec 12, 2021 20:45:24 GMT
Don't forget that ped camp lol I was told PED camps don't count. That don't make sense since it says when adding to an attribute and that's exactly what they ped camp does. But if they don't want to do that it's fine.
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Post by josephballin11 on Dec 12, 2021 20:45:26 GMT
Honestly I don't care, just playing devil's advocate. Because the argument last season was they aren't to break players Sampson's notes are very good and he should be drafted #1. Hopefully by me ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Dec 12, 2021 20:46:48 GMT
No, Mr. Narrative, I was more rattled that you guys decided to make his camp which was meant to be one mentor while he was overseas into a point where he gets 8 fucking mentor camps while he's overseas for no reason That camp was supposed to be: - Can be mentored by any international player regardless of position - Can receive one mentor camp, free of camp requirements, while Jovic is overseas (double the cost) 8 mentors X 6 attributes from camps = 42 points for $8k--While finding a guy to mentor. Sampson= 36 for free with his regularly scheduled camping. 42 points for $8k while not even eligible to play NBN games* we should just stop doing draft notes at this point
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Post by josephballin11 on Dec 12, 2021 20:49:18 GMT
8 mentors X 6 attributes from camps = 42 points for $8k--While finding a guy to mentor. Sampson= 36 for free with his regularly scheduled camping. 42 points for $8k while not even eligible to play NBN games* we should just stop doing draft notes at this point That's a direct $8k investment though. Sampson's are free because he's getting those camps regardless
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Dec 12, 2021 20:49:47 GMT
Honestly I don't care, just playing devil's advocate. Because the argument last season was they aren't to break players Sampson's notes are very good and he should be drafted #1. Hopefully by me ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) is a free +9/year on top of normal camps going to BREAK a player? the answer is no
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Post by josephballin11 on Dec 12, 2021 20:50:07 GMT
8 mentors X 6 attributes from camps = 42 points for $8k--While finding a guy to mentor. Sampson= 36 for free with his regularly scheduled camping. 42 points for $8k while not even eligible to play NBN games* we should just stop doing draft notes at this point Plus you are discrediting how hard it is for a bottom tier team to get a mentor that truly makes it worth it
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Post by josephballin11 on Dec 12, 2021 20:50:32 GMT
Honestly I don't care, just playing devil's advocate. Because the argument last season was they aren't to break players Sampson's notes are very good and he should be drafted #1. Hopefully by me ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) is a free +9/year on top of normal camps going to BREAK a player? the answer is no I mean Lever is one season in and already looks pretty damn good
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Dec 12, 2021 20:51:04 GMT
42 points for $8k while not even eligible to play NBN games* we should just stop doing draft notes at this point That's a direct $8k investment though. Sampson's are free because he's getting those camps regardless yes, and Sampson's potential could be very low which would entirely change the entire situation here if Sampson comes in with sub 80 potential, he's probably not a top 3 pick, which he should be with how storied his college career was
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Dec 12, 2021 20:53:26 GMT
is a free +9/year on top of normal camps going to BREAK a player? the answer is no I mean Lever is one season in and already looks pretty damn good Want to know why Lever looks so good? - Traded Gervin for Freeman and Cooper, used Cooper's note on him this year - Used a draft pick on Lister so I could use Lever/Lister's notes - supercamped year 1 Ultimately, I've invested a lot more into Lever than feasible for most teams
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Dec 12, 2021 20:56:05 GMT
42 points for $8k while not even eligible to play NBN games* we should just stop doing draft notes at this point Plus you are discrediting how hard it is for a bottom tier team to get a mentor that truly makes it worth it Point being, the note was not created in the sense that you guys made it. He would've had multiple years to find the mentor for the one singular camp he was SUPPOSED to get. You didn't need to sell out to get a mentor if the note was used how it was intended
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Post by josephballin11 on Dec 12, 2021 21:02:31 GMT
I mean Lever is one season in and already looks pretty damn good Want to know why Lever looks so good? - Traded Gervin for Freeman and Cooper, used Cooper's note on him this year - Used a draft pick on Lister so I could use Lever/Lister's notes- supercamped year 1 Ultimately, I've invested a lot more into Lever than feasible for most teams Don't be dense. Lister is a very good player given the notes. You could have got the spare of the 3 in the second round, instead of wasting the Lister pick.
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Post by josephballin11 on Dec 12, 2021 21:04:03 GMT
Plus you are discrediting how hard it is for a bottom tier team to get a mentor that truly makes it worth it Point being, the note was not created in the sense that you guys made it. He would've had multiple years to find the mentor for the one singular camp he was SUPPOSED to get. You didn't need to sell out to get a mentor if the note was used how it was intended Under that logic of thinking, I'd assume the draft notes below mean collectively they can only attend 4. Meaning you used 2 this season and have 2 remaining? Fat Lever Alton Lister Tony Zeno Coached by the legendary Ned Wulk at Arizona State, the Sun Devils trio in the draft has grown very close and would like to continue playing together if at all possible. If any mixture of the three play minutes in 50+ games on the same team in any of their four rookie seasons, every player involved will be eligible to go to the "Sun Devil Special" improvement camp, which entails a free +3 to potential and two +3's to any non-potential/athletic attribute, free of charge and camp history requirements. This camp can be given four times total over their four year rookie contracts.
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Dec 12, 2021 21:11:30 GMT
Point being, the note was not created in the sense that you guys made it. He would've had multiple years to find the mentor for the one singular camp he was SUPPOSED to get. You didn't need to sell out to get a mentor if the note was used how it was intended Under that logic of thinking, I'd assume the draft notes below mean collectively they can only attend 4. Meaning you used 2 this season and have 2 remaining? Fat Lever Alton Lister Tony Zeno Coached by the legendary Ned Wulk at Arizona State, the Sun Devils trio in the draft has grown very close and would like to continue playing together if at all possible. If any mixture of the three play minutes in 50+ games on the same team in any of their four rookie seasons, every player involved will be eligible to go to the "Sun Devil Special" improvement camp, which entails a free +3 to potential and two +3's to any non-potential/athletic attribute, free of charge and camp history requirements. This camp can be given four times total over their four year rookie contracts. Nah, they go to the camp together one time per year. Entirely different situation. "Every player involved will be eligible to go to THE (one, singular) "Sun Devil Special" improvement camp. This camp (SINGULAR) can be given four times total". "Along with this, for double the cost, you can mentor camp while he is overseas and it will not count towards his camp tracking." Mentor camp is singular and "double the cost" would essentially confirm that considering the cost is talking about the one singular camp.
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Dec 12, 2021 21:13:18 GMT
Want to know why Lever looks so good? - Traded Gervin for Freeman and Cooper, used Cooper's note on him this year - Used a draft pick on Lister so I could use Lever/Lister's notes- supercamped year 1 Ultimately, I've invested a lot more into Lever than feasible for most teams Don't be dense. Lister is a very good player given the notes. You could have got the spare of the 3 in the second round, instead of wasting the Lister pick. I don't think Lister ever turns into anything more than a 13-14 PPG player offensively, so he'll end up being like every other defensive/rebounding big. I scouted multiple players at the spot, he was not the best of the group initially.
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Post by josephballin11 on Dec 12, 2021 21:16:33 GMT
Under that logic of thinking, I'd assume the draft notes below mean collectively they can only attend 4. Meaning you used 2 this season and have 2 remaining? Fat Lever Alton Lister Tony Zeno Coached by the legendary Ned Wulk at Arizona State, the Sun Devils trio in the draft has grown very close and would like to continue playing together if at all possible. If any mixture of the three play minutes in 50+ games on the same team in any of their four rookie seasons, every player involved will be eligible to go to the "Sun Devil Special" improvement camp, which entails a free +3 to potential and two +3's to any non-potential/athletic attribute, free of charge and camp history requirements. This camp can be given four times total over their four year rookie contracts. Nah, they go to the camp together one time per year. Entirely different situation. "Every player involved will be eligible to go to THE (one, singular) "Sun Devil Special" improvement camp. This camp (SINGULAR) can be given four times total". "Along with this, for double the cost, you can mentor camp while he is overseas and it will not count towards his camp tracking." Mentor camp is singular and "double the cost" would essentially confirm that considering the cost is talking about the one singular camp. Seems pretty ambiguous to me. But I'll let you rock. I'll just need to pay closer attention to the draft notes going forward to make sure there aren't people abusing the system. Honestly I'm close to just scrapping draft notes all together
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