Post by Donny - Bucks on Feb 15, 2022 2:54:14 GMT
As one of the more productive big men in league history, Victor Wembanyama's defensive ability led him to multiple Defensive Player of the Year Awards over his terrific career. Will this be enough for him to get into the NBN Hall of Fame?
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CAREER STATS
Games: 1,173
MPG: 35.6
PPG: 14.2
RPG: 13.0
APG: 3.1
SPG: 1.3
BPG: 2.7
TOPG: 2.1
FG%: .414
FT%: .690
3P%: .328
Best Season (2026 Bucks)
Games: 82
MPG: 36.3
PPG: 13.3
RPG: 12.9
APG: 3.2
SPG: 1.7
BPG: 3.6
TOPG: 2.4
FG%: .455
FT%: .704
3P%: .407
Career Highs
Points: 38
Rebounds: 28
Assists: 11
Steals: 7
Blocks: 13
Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 144
Player of the Week: 1
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 777
Triple Doubles: 14
Awards
2024 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2024 - All-Rookie Team
2025 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2026 - Defensive Player of the Year
2026 - All-Defensive Team
2030 - All-Star Game Participant
2030 - All-League Third Team
2031 - Defensive Player of the Year
2031 - All-Defensive Team
Arguments For Induction
- As a two-time Defensive Player of the Year, it's hard to argue against one of the strongest defensive players in league history. With 10 seasons of 4+ stocks/game and an average of nearly 14 rebounds/game during that stretch, it's hard to find bigs who were a scarier matchup on the defensive end.
- While his numbers/percentages dropped a little bit after being held hostage in Detroit, Wembanyama found ways to produce outside of just the defensive end. Wembanyama was a terrific passer, nearly always over 3 APG, and was an above-average free throw/three point shooter for his 7'5", 280 frame, having a few quietly impressive offensive years while always being a defensive monster.
- The longevity was impressive for Wembanyama, and as noted by Silver in one of the Milestone Watch threads, he still had a lot in the tank. Even in his final years, he was a lock for 3+ stocks a night, 14+ points, and even the occasional high-assist game along the way. Had he ended up on a contender, I think it's certainly reasonable to say that he could've had some of the more historic block/rebound counts of any of the bigs we've ever had.
Arguments Against Induction
- While you don't necessarily expect big men to shoot the lights out, Wembanyama had a few pretty pedestrian offensive years in terms of the percentages, likely due more to teams attempting to use him as more than an elite defensive anchor. While he would produce numbers and get to the line quite a lot, his offensive game may have left a bit to be desired in the mid-late 2030's.
- No ring will make this closer than it should be. Unfortunately, as mentioned before, Wembanyama spent the first chunk of his career on contenders and the last half of his career on middling-at-best rosters. Wembanyama should've been the perfect "pick + cash" trade candidate given the circumstances, but unfortunately, it just didn't come to fruition.
- Wembanyama stacks up incredibly favorably to some Hall of Fame bigs, like Marvin Bagley, but was just not on the level of a guy like Karl-Anthony Towns or Anthony Davis. I think Wembanyama's pretty comparable, all things considered, to players like Jarrett Allen and Mitchell Robinson... but is he good enough to reach the vote threshold to get in? That's for you to decide!
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***
PLAYER PAGE -nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2038/html/players/player598.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 1,173
MPG: 35.6
PPG: 14.2
RPG: 13.0
APG: 3.1
SPG: 1.3
BPG: 2.7
TOPG: 2.1
FG%: .414
FT%: .690
3P%: .328
Best Season (2026 Bucks)
Games: 82
MPG: 36.3
PPG: 13.3
RPG: 12.9
APG: 3.2
SPG: 1.7
BPG: 3.6
TOPG: 2.4
FG%: .455
FT%: .704
3P%: .407
Career Highs
Points: 38
Rebounds: 28
Assists: 11
Steals: 7
Blocks: 13
Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 144
Player of the Week: 1
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 777
Triple Doubles: 14
Awards
2024 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2024 - All-Rookie Team
2025 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2026 - Defensive Player of the Year
2026 - All-Defensive Team
2030 - All-Star Game Participant
2030 - All-League Third Team
2031 - Defensive Player of the Year
2031 - All-Defensive Team
Arguments For Induction
- As a two-time Defensive Player of the Year, it's hard to argue against one of the strongest defensive players in league history. With 10 seasons of 4+ stocks/game and an average of nearly 14 rebounds/game during that stretch, it's hard to find bigs who were a scarier matchup on the defensive end.
- While his numbers/percentages dropped a little bit after being held hostage in Detroit, Wembanyama found ways to produce outside of just the defensive end. Wembanyama was a terrific passer, nearly always over 3 APG, and was an above-average free throw/three point shooter for his 7'5", 280 frame, having a few quietly impressive offensive years while always being a defensive monster.
- The longevity was impressive for Wembanyama, and as noted by Silver in one of the Milestone Watch threads, he still had a lot in the tank. Even in his final years, he was a lock for 3+ stocks a night, 14+ points, and even the occasional high-assist game along the way. Had he ended up on a contender, I think it's certainly reasonable to say that he could've had some of the more historic block/rebound counts of any of the bigs we've ever had.
Arguments Against Induction
- While you don't necessarily expect big men to shoot the lights out, Wembanyama had a few pretty pedestrian offensive years in terms of the percentages, likely due more to teams attempting to use him as more than an elite defensive anchor. While he would produce numbers and get to the line quite a lot, his offensive game may have left a bit to be desired in the mid-late 2030's.
- No ring will make this closer than it should be. Unfortunately, as mentioned before, Wembanyama spent the first chunk of his career on contenders and the last half of his career on middling-at-best rosters. Wembanyama should've been the perfect "pick + cash" trade candidate given the circumstances, but unfortunately, it just didn't come to fruition.
- Wembanyama stacks up incredibly favorably to some Hall of Fame bigs, like Marvin Bagley, but was just not on the level of a guy like Karl-Anthony Towns or Anthony Davis. I think Wembanyama's pretty comparable, all things considered, to players like Jarrett Allen and Mitchell Robinson... but is he good enough to reach the vote threshold to get in? That's for you to decide!
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***
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