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Post by ucfinfan86 on Feb 16, 2022 0:04:09 GMT
Did he? Only 1 DPOY and all defense as a Buck Won more with Sonics. Im open to hearing argument that he should go in as a Buck tho Bucks 60-22 - lost in first (  ) 52-30 - conference finals 52-30 - lost in Finals 59-23 - lost in Finals 50-32 - conference finals 33-49 (traded after this year) Sonics: 45-37 - lost in first 48-32 - lost in first 39-43 (traded after this year) Pistons: 48-34 - lost in second 42-40 - lost in first 40-42 - lost in first 43-39 47-35 - lost in first 33-49 He was the anchor, star defender of a contending team with the Bucks, a Sonics team that wasn't deep enough to do anything but fizzle out in the first, and then ended his career by being an extraordinary talent on a non-extraordinary roster with Detroit. He was an unreal player for the entirety given the decade plus of 15/13/4+ stocks basically being a near-guarantee throughout his career, but the best play of his career (stock production, percentages) and best run of his career (averaged 50+ wins over his career, didn't even touch 50 once elsewhere due to poor roster construction/not enough depth on his team) was in Milwaukee, imo. Ok you win I’ll vote him as a Buck. Still stands tho he got more awards as a non-buck |
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Post by yourkers15 on Feb 16, 2022 0:09:53 GMT
Just following suit with a yes. Very surprised by the amount of awards he actually has. For a guy who was a great defender he didn't wasn't on as many all defensive teams as you would have expected. But he was very good and was a great rim protector.
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Feb 16, 2022 0:24:04 GMT
if there is any one player i'll ever want to go into the Hall of Fame as a member of the Bucks it's him, I regret moving him seeing how the end of his career went Weren't you Sonics interim when he was there too or am I misremembering? very briefly, I sent Wemb to Charles and I'm not sure if he made the trade and quit a bit after or if I traded him but yeah |
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Post by The Slough on Feb 16, 2022 1:03:07 GMT
I went with multiple teams.
He was a bench player on the Bucks run to the finals, wasn't all that great in his 2nd year, so I think the bulk of his best years were a combination with all 3 teams.
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Feb 16, 2022 1:16:54 GMT
I went with multiple teams. He was a bench player on the Bucks run to the finals, wasn't all that great in his 2nd year, so I think the bulk of his best years were a combination with all 3 teams. 10.5/11/3.9 stocks per game... wasn't "all that great" Tank Thomson barely is a double-digit rebounder and is at a measly 2.3 stocks but you suck him off as if he's the next coming of Jesus Christ. He didn't do ANYTHING with the Pistons because the team was dog shit. I don't get it. |
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Post by The Slough on Feb 16, 2022 1:26:16 GMT
I went with multiple teams. He was a bench player on the Bucks run to the finals, wasn't all that great in his 2nd year, so I think the bulk of his best years were a combination with all 3 teams. 10.5/11/3.9 stocks per game... wasn't "all that great" Tank Thomson barely is a double-digit rebounder and is at a measly 2.3 stocks but you suck him off as if he's the next coming of Jesus Christ. He didn't do ANYTHING with the Pistons because the team was dog shit. I don't get it. LOL, no that isn't all that great. Also, Wemb wasn't why you were winning a lot of games it was your backcourts and Giannis. As for Tank, just playing a page out of your book of pumping up my players. You don't have to take it personal. He played 4 good years for Bucks, 3 for Sonics, and 6 for the Pistons, seems like it is multiple teams to me. If you are judging players on how the team finished, then Fred VanVleet should be a HOFamer as he has more rings than any Bucks. |
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Post by cop5414 on Feb 16, 2022 1:29:50 GMT
I went with multiple teams. He was a bench player on the Bucks run to the finals, wasn't all that great in his 2nd year, so I think the bulk of his best years were a combination with all 3 teams. 10.5/11/3.9 stocks per game... wasn't "all that great" Tank Thomson barely is a double-digit rebounder and is at a measly 2.3 stocks but you suck him off as if he's the next coming of Jesus Christ. He didn't do ANYTHING with the Pistons because the team was dog shit. I don't get it. What does HOF have to do with overall team performance? Only championships carry any merit. |
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Feb 16, 2022 1:40:12 GMT
10.5/11/3.9 stocks per game... wasn't "all that great" Tank Thomson barely is a double-digit rebounder and is at a measly 2.3 stocks but you suck him off as if he's the next coming of Jesus Christ. He didn't do ANYTHING with the Pistons because the team was dog shit. I don't get it. What does HOF have to do with overall team performance? Only championships carry any merit. The fact that he did approximately nothing in Seattle and even less in Detroit would lead you to believe that he shouldn't get any recognition in the Hall of Fame with said teams. Especially considering his best years were in Milwaukee. That's all! His career performance, paired with the team success he contributed to, should launch him in as a Buck, imo. |
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Post by The Slough on Feb 16, 2022 1:52:39 GMT
It is interesting you are arguing the opposite of your vote for Zion lol. You went multiple teams as saying he had best seasons with sixers on a team that made the playoffs once in his 4 seasons there lol.
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Feb 16, 2022 2:07:16 GMT
It is interesting you are arguing the opposite of your vote for Zion lol. You went multiple teams as saying he had best seasons with sixers on a team that made the playoffs once in his 4 seasons there lol. Given the fact that like 25% of his games with your team and ended up on about a dozen teams over his career, whereas Wembanyama played over 40% of his career games on my team after I drafted him and developed him as an International prospect. |
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Post by hunt54 on Feb 16, 2022 2:23:36 GMT
10.5/11/3.9 stocks per game... wasn't "all that great" Tank Thomson barely is a double-digit rebounder and is at a measly 2.3 stocks but you suck him off as if he's the next coming of Jesus Christ. He didn't do ANYTHING with the Pistons because the team was dog shit. I don't get it. What does HOF have to do with overall team performance? Only championships carry any merit. MATTHEW STAFFORD IS A HALL OF FAMEWR ? |
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Post by cop5414 on Feb 16, 2022 2:51:31 GMT
What does HOF have to do with overall team performance? Only championships carry any merit. MATTHEW STAFFORD IS A HALL OF FAMEWR ? No first off the dude plays QB not WR |
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Post by afro on Feb 16, 2022 20:30:47 GMT
No…d numbers were nice but feel like guys like him are easy to find
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Post by mcmuslim on Feb 16, 2022 20:50:07 GMT
Almost went with no, but he was the Jarret Allen of his generation. That deserves some credit.
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Post by Donny - Bucks on Feb 16, 2022 23:03:32 GMT
No…d numbers were nice but feel like guys like him are easy to find Players with multiple DPOYs: Artis Gilmore Ryan Ritter Jayden Nicholson Victor Wembanyama Jarrett Allen Mitchell Robinson Every one of these guys should be Hall of Famers, not to mention, Wembanyama played (and outplayed) all of these guys regularly. |
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