Post by Donny - Bucks on Feb 21, 2022 23:41:25 GMT
As an under-the-radar shooting guard who spent his 17 year career on 10 different teams, Hardy was a model of consistency and, even moreso, how to get a bucket. Will this be enough for him to get into the NBN Hall of Fame?
PLAYER PAGE -http://nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2038/html/players/player551.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 1357
MPG: 34.3
PPG: 19.4
RPG: 4.9
APG: 3.5
SPG: 2.4
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 2.1
FG%: .453
FT%: .808
3P%: .415
Best Season (2031 Jazz)
Games: 83
MPG: 38.6
PPG: 25.6
RPG: 5.6
APG: 3.7
SPG: 2.8
BPG: 0.1
TOPG: 1.9
FG%: .481
FT%: .860
3P%: .450
Career Highs
Points: 46
Rebounds: 16
Assists: 14
Steals: 9
Blocks: 3
Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 72
Player of the Week: 0
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 61
Triple Doubles: 1
Awards
2022 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2022 - All-Rookie Second Team
2023 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2028 - All-Star Game Participant
2030 - Sixth Man of the Year
2031 - All-League Third Team
2032 - 3-Point Shootout Champion
2032 - All-Star Game Participant
Arguments For Induction
- Jaden Hardy is a guy who was the unsung hero for a lot of talented teams, as a guy who did everything in a PRODUCTIVE manner. Need points? He's your guy, well over a 20+ PPG player in his prime. Need defense? Many years near or over 3 stocks/game. Need a passer or rebounder? Consistently produced. While he may not have all the fancy accolades due to the depth at the position, Hardy was a ridiculously consistent all-around talent for a very long time.
- There are few players who had the longevity that Hardy did, especially given the fact that he was a 21.8 PPG player in year 17 of his career, shooting around his career average while putting up 4.8 RPG, 4.0 APG, and 2.8 stocks/game along the way. When he was off the bench, he was one of the league's elite sixth men. When he started, he did numbers. Hardy may never have been the best of the best, but he was always incredibly consistent and productive.
- I think the most impressive part about Hardy's career is how he essentially never missed a beat regardless of the team he was playing with. After his rookie year, he had just three years at a sub 44% clip from the field and made nearly 10,000 shots over his career while also being a super productive player in every other facet of his game. I think it's crucial that we recognize just productive he was, with a few All-Star Game appearances, an All-League Third, a Sixth Man of the Year, a 3-Point Shootout Championship, and just an overall great career.
Arguments Against Induction
- Lacking accolades and championships takes this case and makes it a very arguable one, in which you can rationalize voting for either side. Hardy played 17 years and made multiple runs in the playoffs but never got the elusive ring or high All-League Team finish that would've made this case much harder to argue against.
- Was Hardy on the same level as guys like R.J. Hampton? While Hampton received an overwhelming percentage of the votes (88%), there were definitely questions about Hampton's ability as a "borderline" player whereas, if Hampton's a borderline player, how does Hardy stack up?
- Hardy's case is propped up by very high-quality stock production and a solid ability across the board certainly doesn't hurt, but is he more of a "Hall of Fame" or a "Hall of Very Good" type of player? We've had similar cases before and, if history repeats itself, I think we'll end up with people on both sides of the aisle for this one.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***
PLAYER PAGE -http://nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2038/html/players/player551.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 1357
MPG: 34.3
PPG: 19.4
RPG: 4.9
APG: 3.5
SPG: 2.4
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 2.1
FG%: .453
FT%: .808
3P%: .415
Best Season (2031 Jazz)
Games: 83
MPG: 38.6
PPG: 25.6
RPG: 5.6
APG: 3.7
SPG: 2.8
BPG: 0.1
TOPG: 1.9
FG%: .481
FT%: .860
3P%: .450
Career Highs
Points: 46
Rebounds: 16
Assists: 14
Steals: 9
Blocks: 3
Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 72
Player of the Week: 0
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 61
Triple Doubles: 1
Awards
2022 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2022 - All-Rookie Second Team
2023 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2028 - All-Star Game Participant
2030 - Sixth Man of the Year
2031 - All-League Third Team
2032 - 3-Point Shootout Champion
2032 - All-Star Game Participant
Arguments For Induction
- Jaden Hardy is a guy who was the unsung hero for a lot of talented teams, as a guy who did everything in a PRODUCTIVE manner. Need points? He's your guy, well over a 20+ PPG player in his prime. Need defense? Many years near or over 3 stocks/game. Need a passer or rebounder? Consistently produced. While he may not have all the fancy accolades due to the depth at the position, Hardy was a ridiculously consistent all-around talent for a very long time.
- There are few players who had the longevity that Hardy did, especially given the fact that he was a 21.8 PPG player in year 17 of his career, shooting around his career average while putting up 4.8 RPG, 4.0 APG, and 2.8 stocks/game along the way. When he was off the bench, he was one of the league's elite sixth men. When he started, he did numbers. Hardy may never have been the best of the best, but he was always incredibly consistent and productive.
- I think the most impressive part about Hardy's career is how he essentially never missed a beat regardless of the team he was playing with. After his rookie year, he had just three years at a sub 44% clip from the field and made nearly 10,000 shots over his career while also being a super productive player in every other facet of his game. I think it's crucial that we recognize just productive he was, with a few All-Star Game appearances, an All-League Third, a Sixth Man of the Year, a 3-Point Shootout Championship, and just an overall great career.
Arguments Against Induction
- Lacking accolades and championships takes this case and makes it a very arguable one, in which you can rationalize voting for either side. Hardy played 17 years and made multiple runs in the playoffs but never got the elusive ring or high All-League Team finish that would've made this case much harder to argue against.
- Was Hardy on the same level as guys like R.J. Hampton? While Hampton received an overwhelming percentage of the votes (88%), there were definitely questions about Hampton's ability as a "borderline" player whereas, if Hampton's a borderline player, how does Hardy stack up?
- Hardy's case is propped up by very high-quality stock production and a solid ability across the board certainly doesn't hurt, but is he more of a "Hall of Fame" or a "Hall of Very Good" type of player? We've had similar cases before and, if history repeats itself, I think we'll end up with people on both sides of the aisle for this one.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***