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Post by Donny - Bucks on May 10, 2022 3:57:42 GMT
talk about bailing out bad gms who don't scout... they're just gonna draft the guys with the high potentials now without any scouting, what a bailout. drafting is now so much easier. Plenty of guys with high potential don't turn out, cause the damn game throws it at ratings that aren't very useful. It doesn't matter to me regardless. it just kinda ruins the whole vibe for me
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Post by The Slough on May 10, 2022 4:03:31 GMT
Plenty of guys with high potential don't turn out, cause the damn game throws it at ratings that aren't very useful. It doesn't matter to me regardless. it just kinda ruins the whole vibe for me Can't win without writing a bunch, scouting, and buying picks ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Michael on May 10, 2022 4:06:52 GMT
Always gonna be two sides when changes are introduced. Happy to just roll with whatever works best for the commish.
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Post by Donny - Bucks on May 10, 2022 4:16:52 GMT
it just kinda ruins the whole vibe for me Can't win without writing a bunch, scouting, and buying picks ![;)](//storage2.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) k
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Post by josephballin11 on May 10, 2022 4:17:56 GMT
Always gonna be two sides when changes are introduced. Happy to just roll with whatever works best for the commish.
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Post by The Slough on May 10, 2022 4:24:12 GMT
Can't win without writing a bunch, scouting, and buying picks ![;)](//storage2.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) k Just giving you shit bro, relax. You will still be fine in winning regardless. I actually think it would help you. I think man overlook things too much on scouts. yourkers15 can vouch for this. Didn't this guy draft Dieng, Arturo, some other SG that was older I can't remember or maybe traded for him lol.
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Post by A. Silver on May 10, 2022 4:47:13 GMT
Making the right pick is too easy with the current system. The amount of information readily available plus being able to pay a reasonable cost to see the raw ratings including potential has taken all of the mystery out of the draft. It also makes the draft too reliant on me being able to return scouts in a reasonable amount of time to keep the draft moving. The likely changes to draft scouting will be: - No scouting raw ratings of draftees - Some small amount of pre draft camps are available to everyone. Something like: Regular Season Awards, Creation Draft Order, Playoff Box Scores. - All other pre draft camps will be available to be purchased for $100 per page - I will click the [Make scouted potential = true potential for draftees] button before uploading each draft. Overall not a fan, but not a huge opponent of it either so not gonna argue either way. 1 thing I think is weird to me is if this is about "taking the mystery out of the draft" the last point does that on its own. If FBB was A=90+ and B 80+ I'd say this isn't a huge change. But B potential would mean that a guy has 80 or below potential and completely makes them unviable in the lotto. I totally disagree - Damion Baugh and Ray Borner are two examples of players who started with B potential that are both worthy of being lotto picks. There is still a big difference between a high A and a high B, and FBB might change what it is after the first TC either way.
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Post by The Slough on May 10, 2022 4:50:05 GMT
George Morrow seems fine ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Rog on May 10, 2022 5:43:07 GMT
Overall not a fan, but not a huge opponent of it either so not gonna argue either way. 1 thing I think is weird to me is if this is about "taking the mystery out of the draft" the last point does that on its own. If FBB was A=90+ and B 80+ I'd say this isn't a huge change. But B potential would mean that a guy has 80 or below potential and completely makes them unviable in the lotto. I totally disagree - Damion Baugh and Ray Borner are two examples of players who started with B potential that are both worthy of being lotto picks. There is still a big difference between a high A and a high B, and FBB might change what it is after the first TC either way. I truly don't remember what I give for true potentials on anyone almost immediately after making a guy, but unless you changed it after I handed it, I know for a fact Baugh wouldn't have had B potential if scouted=real. I'm almost certain that I gave Baugh really solid and then highlighted the breakout potential of Baugh in my articles. I could be wrong and misremembering very easily, but giving a Memphis player low potential doesn't sound right to me
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Post by dash on May 10, 2022 7:23:37 GMT
Overall not a fan, but not a huge opponent of it either so not gonna argue either way. 1 thing I think is weird to me is if this is about "taking the mystery out of the draft" the last point does that on its own. If FBB was A=90+ and B 80+ I'd say this isn't a huge change. But B potential would mean that a guy has 80 or below potential and completely makes them unviable in the lotto. I totally disagree - Damion Baugh and Ray Borner are two examples of players who started with B potential that are both worthy of being lotto picks. There is still a big difference between a high A and a high B, and FBB might change what it is after the first TC either way. In SLOR, I'm more prone to picking B potential because they sometimes have better ratings. Really up to how you balance the draft.
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Post by A. Silver on May 10, 2022 14:40:31 GMT
I totally disagree - Damion Baugh and Ray Borner are two examples of players who started with B potential that are both worthy of being lotto picks. There is still a big difference between a high A and a high B, and FBB might change what it is after the first TC either way. I truly don't remember what I give for true potentials on anyone almost immediately after making a guy, but unless you changed it after I handed it, I know for a fact Baugh wouldn't have had B potential if scouted=real. I'm almost certain that I gave Baugh really solid and then highlighted the breakout potential of Baugh in my articles. I could be wrong and misremembering very easily, but giving a Memphis player low potential doesn't sound right to me I can confirm with 100% certainty that Baugh had 80 potential when you gave me the file. I did edit it down to 75, but either way it started as a 'B'. You also had this to say about him in our Skype chat "80 was too low for him to turn out to be more than a decent starter" - so it's clear you've had this feeling about players with B potential for a while, but it's also clear that players with B potential are often still worthy of being lottery picks.
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Post by Rog on May 10, 2022 17:13:19 GMT
I truly don't remember what I give for true potentials on anyone almost immediately after making a guy, but unless you changed it after I handed it, I know for a fact Baugh wouldn't have had B potential if scouted=real. I'm almost certain that I gave Baugh really solid and then highlighted the breakout potential of Baugh in my articles. I could be wrong and misremembering very easily, but giving a Memphis player low potential doesn't sound right to me I can confirm with 100% certainty that Baugh had 80 potential when you gave me the file. I did edit it down to 75, but either way it started as a 'B'. You also had this to say about him in our Skype chat "80 was too low for him to turn out to be more than a decent starter" - so it's clear you've had this feeling about players with B potential for a while, but it's also clear that players with B potential are often still worthy of being lottery picks. Interesting. I don't remember that conversation. Not much else to say then. I mean, I've never been secret on how I value and target players. I like younger, higher potential dudes. So this shouldn't be shocking that my opinion on it is what it is haha.
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