Post by Donny - Bucks on Jun 19, 2022 21:37:54 GMT
Another guy who was pretty close to getting in the first time, Wendell Carter hopes his defensive ability will be enough to put him through on try #2. Will this be enough for him to get into the NBN Hall of Fame?
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2033/html/players/player259.htm
INITIAL VOTE - nothinbutnetleague.proboards.com/thread/22810/2034-hall-nominee-wendell-carter
CAREER STATS
Games: 1,152
MPG: 31.9
PPG: 13.8
RPG: 11.5
APG: 1.6
SPG: 0.9
BPG: 2.9
TOPG: 1.6
FG%: .435
FT%: .739
3P%: .154
Best Season (2026 Lakers)
Games: 82
MPG: 37.9
PPG: 15.2
RPG: 14.0
APG: 2.1
SPG: 0.9
BPG: 3.8
TOPG: 1.7
FG%: .443
FT%: .718
3P%: .182
Career Highs
Points: 44
Rebounds: 26
Assists: 8
Steals: 6
Blocks: 12
Achievements
Championships: 3
Player of the Game: 121
Player of the Week: 0
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 683
Triple Doubles: 6
Awards
2022 - All-Star Game Participant
2023 - All-Star Game Participant
2024 - All-Star Game Participant
2024 - All-League Third Team
2024 - Defensive Player of the Year
2024 - All-Defensive Team
2026 - All-Star Game Participant
2026 - All-Star Game MVP
2026 - All-Defensive Second Team
Arguments For Induction
- At first I led with the defensive/rebounding abilities and I'll probably stick to my guns on this one even though it didn't work the first time. While Carter's career numbers are underwhelming at the same level as Giannis Antetokounmpo's are, he was a very high-level defender and rebounder for a large portion of his career, grabbing over 13,000 rebounds and over 4,300 stocks over 1,152 games.
- He won a Defensive Player of the Year award in 2024 and managed to find his way to a few All-Star and one All-League team over his career as well. Had he been a better offensive producer at an efficient level with some volume, we might've seen him be a consistent All-League team guy considering how productive he was for a long while.
- He averaged a double double for about a decade (683 double doubles for his career) and had some really mind-blowing defensive numbers for a few seasons in there. While his career may not have been the most exciting in terms of his production as a 14/11.5/3.8 stock average guy, he was certainly a player with multiple tools.
Arguments Against Induction
- I think his case has gotten a LITTLE worse as time has gone on. Considering there was pretty significant push back against guys like James Wiseman, Manny Leaks, and Dave Cowens who had very similar careers in terms of strengths and weaknesses, I think it might be a little bit difficult to get him the votes needed to put him in?
- The awards he brings to the table will be a definite negative with only one all-League team and a few All-Star games. Does he belong in a category with guys like KAT, Anthony Davis, and eventually Ray Borner, Ryan Ritter, etc? Obviously, those guys are all some of the best we've ever had in the league, but it still leads you to be a little bit concerned at his overall case.
- Outside of the more-decorated options on defense, it's really hard to elect any big without crazy offensive game. Carter was a quality offensive player to the tune of nearly 14 PPG over his career on 43.5% from the field, but was his terrific defensive ability enough to be able to carry his less-than-ideal offensive production into the Hall?
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2033/html/players/player259.htm
INITIAL VOTE - nothinbutnetleague.proboards.com/thread/22810/2034-hall-nominee-wendell-carter
CAREER STATS
Games: 1,152
MPG: 31.9
PPG: 13.8
RPG: 11.5
APG: 1.6
SPG: 0.9
BPG: 2.9
TOPG: 1.6
FG%: .435
FT%: .739
3P%: .154
Best Season (2026 Lakers)
Games: 82
MPG: 37.9
PPG: 15.2
RPG: 14.0
APG: 2.1
SPG: 0.9
BPG: 3.8
TOPG: 1.7
FG%: .443
FT%: .718
3P%: .182
Career Highs
Points: 44
Rebounds: 26
Assists: 8
Steals: 6
Blocks: 12
Achievements
Championships: 3
Player of the Game: 121
Player of the Week: 0
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 683
Triple Doubles: 6
Awards
2022 - All-Star Game Participant
2023 - All-Star Game Participant
2024 - All-Star Game Participant
2024 - All-League Third Team
2024 - Defensive Player of the Year
2024 - All-Defensive Team
2026 - All-Star Game Participant
2026 - All-Star Game MVP
2026 - All-Defensive Second Team
Arguments For Induction
- At first I led with the defensive/rebounding abilities and I'll probably stick to my guns on this one even though it didn't work the first time. While Carter's career numbers are underwhelming at the same level as Giannis Antetokounmpo's are, he was a very high-level defender and rebounder for a large portion of his career, grabbing over 13,000 rebounds and over 4,300 stocks over 1,152 games.
- He won a Defensive Player of the Year award in 2024 and managed to find his way to a few All-Star and one All-League team over his career as well. Had he been a better offensive producer at an efficient level with some volume, we might've seen him be a consistent All-League team guy considering how productive he was for a long while.
- He averaged a double double for about a decade (683 double doubles for his career) and had some really mind-blowing defensive numbers for a few seasons in there. While his career may not have been the most exciting in terms of his production as a 14/11.5/3.8 stock average guy, he was certainly a player with multiple tools.
Arguments Against Induction
- I think his case has gotten a LITTLE worse as time has gone on. Considering there was pretty significant push back against guys like James Wiseman, Manny Leaks, and Dave Cowens who had very similar careers in terms of strengths and weaknesses, I think it might be a little bit difficult to get him the votes needed to put him in?
- The awards he brings to the table will be a definite negative with only one all-League team and a few All-Star games. Does he belong in a category with guys like KAT, Anthony Davis, and eventually Ray Borner, Ryan Ritter, etc? Obviously, those guys are all some of the best we've ever had in the league, but it still leads you to be a little bit concerned at his overall case.
- Outside of the more-decorated options on defense, it's really hard to elect any big without crazy offensive game. Carter was a quality offensive player to the tune of nearly 14 PPG over his career on 43.5% from the field, but was his terrific defensive ability enough to be able to carry his less-than-ideal offensive production into the Hall?
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***
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