Post by Donny - Bucks on Jul 24, 2022 1:50:34 GMT
At the halfway point of unveiling the class falls a three-time MVP who will go down as one of the best facilitating point guards in the history of the NBN. Will this be enough for him to get into the NBN Hall of Fame?
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2042/html/players/player485.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 1335
MPG: 1335
PPG: 17.6
RPG: 5.7
APG: 8.7
SPG: 2.4
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 2.1
FG%: .453
FT%: .831
3P%: .405
Best Season (2029 Bobcats - MVP)
Games: 79
MPG: 38.6
PPG: 25.0
RPG: 7.0
APG: 11.2
SPG: 3.0
BPG: 0.1
TOPG: 2.1
FG%: .493
FT%: .889
3P%: .459
Career Highs
Points: 46
Rebounds: 16
Assists: 21
Steals: 8
Blocks:
Achievements
Championships: 1
Player of the Game: 358
Player of the Week: 19
Player of the Month: 7
Double Doubles: 614
Triple Doubles: 65
Awards
2024 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2024 - All-Rookie Second Team
2025 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2025 - Slam-Dunk Contest Champion
2028 - All-Star Game Participant
2028 - All-Star Game MVP
2028 - All-League First Team
2029 - All-Star Game Participant
2029 - Most Valuable Player
2029 - All-League First Team
2029 - All-Defensive Second Team
2030 - All-Star Game Participant
2031 - All-Star Game Participant
2031 - All-Star Game MVP
2031 - Most Valuable Player
2032 - Most Valuable Player
2032 - All-League Second Team
2033 - All-Star Game Participant
2033 - All-Star Game MVP
2033 - All-League Third Team
2035 - All-Defensive Second Team
2036 - All-Star Game Participant
Arguments For Induction
- For any GM's who weren't around when he was dominant, this is what you want your point guard to look like. Manigault was an incredibly efficient scorer for a large portion of his career before he ended up as a bench mob guy as a consistent 20/10/6 a night with supreme efficiency for a long, long time. He was pretty great from the get go.
- 3 Most Valuable Player awards with 4 All-League Teams, 6 All-Star Games (3 ASG MVPs!), and a couple All-Defensive Teams in there. He was often the main piece carrying his team to wins and, frankly, he was often in over his head yet never struggled to put up big numbers and help his team. Not to forget, he got the elusive title in there at the end of his career as a bench mob member in Milwaukee.
- In his career as a starter, Manigault averaged 19/9.4/6.2/2.7 on .454/.833/.406, even as he spent time on multiple different teams and played multiple different roles throughout 1,190 games as the PG1. He wasn't going to put up 50 points but he was going to get his, pass at an extremely efficient level, rebound, and contribute high-level defense.
Arguments Against Induction
- Due to his bench seasons, his stat line looks a little bit less appealing than you'd hope out of a Hall of Fame level PG. Manigault definitely earned his awards and was an incredibly player, but 17.6/8.7/5.7/2.6 is a bit more underwhelming than the stat line I anticipated he'd end his career with.
- Although he made the playoffs quite a few times, he didn't win a ring as a starter which is really unfortunate given how unbelievable his individual accomplishments were.
- Without the accolades over the 2028-2033 span of high-level production, he didn't ever make an All-League team and never won any significant awards. Obviously, a player's prime varies, but outside of those years his stat lines weren't really spectacular. Unbelievable prime, but outside of that, it wasn't exactly superstardom.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2042/html/players/player485.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 1335
MPG: 1335
PPG: 17.6
RPG: 5.7
APG: 8.7
SPG: 2.4
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 2.1
FG%: .453
FT%: .831
3P%: .405
Best Season (2029 Bobcats - MVP)
Games: 79
MPG: 38.6
PPG: 25.0
RPG: 7.0
APG: 11.2
SPG: 3.0
BPG: 0.1
TOPG: 2.1
FG%: .493
FT%: .889
3P%: .459
Career Highs
Points: 46
Rebounds: 16
Assists: 21
Steals: 8
Blocks:
Achievements
Championships: 1
Player of the Game: 358
Player of the Week: 19
Player of the Month: 7
Double Doubles: 614
Triple Doubles: 65
Awards
2024 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2024 - All-Rookie Second Team
2025 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2025 - Slam-Dunk Contest Champion
2028 - All-Star Game Participant
2028 - All-Star Game MVP
2028 - All-League First Team
2029 - All-Star Game Participant
2029 - Most Valuable Player
2029 - All-League First Team
2029 - All-Defensive Second Team
2030 - All-Star Game Participant
2031 - All-Star Game Participant
2031 - All-Star Game MVP
2031 - Most Valuable Player
2032 - Most Valuable Player
2032 - All-League Second Team
2033 - All-Star Game Participant
2033 - All-Star Game MVP
2033 - All-League Third Team
2035 - All-Defensive Second Team
2036 - All-Star Game Participant
Arguments For Induction
- For any GM's who weren't around when he was dominant, this is what you want your point guard to look like. Manigault was an incredibly efficient scorer for a large portion of his career before he ended up as a bench mob guy as a consistent 20/10/6 a night with supreme efficiency for a long, long time. He was pretty great from the get go.
- 3 Most Valuable Player awards with 4 All-League Teams, 6 All-Star Games (3 ASG MVPs!), and a couple All-Defensive Teams in there. He was often the main piece carrying his team to wins and, frankly, he was often in over his head yet never struggled to put up big numbers and help his team. Not to forget, he got the elusive title in there at the end of his career as a bench mob member in Milwaukee.
- In his career as a starter, Manigault averaged 19/9.4/6.2/2.7 on .454/.833/.406, even as he spent time on multiple different teams and played multiple different roles throughout 1,190 games as the PG1. He wasn't going to put up 50 points but he was going to get his, pass at an extremely efficient level, rebound, and contribute high-level defense.
Arguments Against Induction
- Due to his bench seasons, his stat line looks a little bit less appealing than you'd hope out of a Hall of Fame level PG. Manigault definitely earned his awards and was an incredibly player, but 17.6/8.7/5.7/2.6 is a bit more underwhelming than the stat line I anticipated he'd end his career with.
- Although he made the playoffs quite a few times, he didn't win a ring as a starter which is really unfortunate given how unbelievable his individual accomplishments were.
- Without the accolades over the 2028-2033 span of high-level production, he didn't ever make an All-League team and never won any significant awards. Obviously, a player's prime varies, but outside of those years his stat lines weren't really spectacular. Unbelievable prime, but outside of that, it wasn't exactly superstardom.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***