Post by Donny - Bucks on Jan 6, 2023 7:05:23 GMT
Olle Lundqvist started strong and would carry that momentum to be a big piece of 3 titles, all while filling up what ends up as a pretty quality trophy case with individual awards as well. Will this be enough for him to get into the NBN Hall of Fame?
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2046/html/players/player459.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 894
MPG: 37.7
PPG: 25.4
RPG: 6.0
APG: 3.7
SPG: 2.2
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 2.9
FG%: .471
FT%: .892
3P%: .440
Best Season (2044 Bucks)
Games: 71
MPG: 36.9
PPG: 25.5
RPG: 6.1
APG: 4.4
SPG: 2.2
BPG: 0.1
TOPG: 2.7
FG%: .473
FT%: .923
3P%: .468
Career Highs
Points: 56
Rebounds: 14
Assists: 13
Steals: 9
Blocks: 2
Achievements
Championships: 3
Player of the Game: 89
Player of the Week: 1
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 94
Triple Doubles: 1
Awards
2035 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2035 - All-Rookie Team
2036 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2037 - All-League Third Team
2040 - All-League Third Team
2041 - All-Star Game Participant
2042 - All-Star Game Participant
2044 - 3-Point Shootout Champion
Arguments For Induction
- Six years in Charlotte, four years in Milwaukee, one year in Detroit, and one year in Washington, all of which were highly productive years in which he was one of the better SGs in the league. He progressed into 25-a-night with solid rebounding ability, solid passing ability, and even turned into a very reliable defender. He did it all!
- He was quite instrumental in a few great seasons, including as a member of the last 2 Bucks titles as well as one with the Wizards in his final year. Olle was always a remarkable offensive player come the playoffs for me and did a lot of the same for the Wizards as well, and always found a way to produce in other aspects of his game.
- Olle definitely has the stats to go up against most of the other SGs we've debated and come out favorably. He also has 2 All-League Third Teams, two All-Star Games in a stacked Eastern Conference, and will go down as one of the greatest International players ever.
Arguments Against Induction
- The argument against Olle was always the lack of success and empty stats but once that went away, it's likely that the biggest argument would be more about how he fit in. Olle was significantly stronger all the way throughout when it came to him as a team's #2 and never really found a way to have success as the #1. Considering he was on some nearly $200M rosters in Charlotte and still never found a way to get it done until he left and had a star ahead of him, that may be cause for caution to some... although I'd say it's not that big of a deal because he put together a strong career all things considered.
- His late entrance to the league isn't going to help as he came in at 26 and didn't have the opportunity to really progress as he was still being camped until he was nearly 30. Lacked a lot of time to put up awards and such which is never ideal in these cases.
- Olle definitely had some turnover issues with quite a few years over 3 TOPG and a career average of 2.9, which isn't horrible but is hard to overlook in some cases. Not necessarily the end of the world because he was a fine passer and got some stocks, but it's not what you want at SG given how many good defenders can make you pay.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***
PLAYER PAGE - nothinbutnetleague.altervista.org/NothinButNet/Archive/2046/html/players/player459.htm
CAREER STATS
Games: 894
MPG: 37.7
PPG: 25.4
RPG: 6.0
APG: 3.7
SPG: 2.2
BPG: 0.2
TOPG: 2.9
FG%: .471
FT%: .892
3P%: .440
Best Season (2044 Bucks)
Games: 71
MPG: 36.9
PPG: 25.5
RPG: 6.1
APG: 4.4
SPG: 2.2
BPG: 0.1
TOPG: 2.7
FG%: .473
FT%: .923
3P%: .468
Career Highs
Points: 56
Rebounds: 14
Assists: 13
Steals: 9
Blocks: 2
Achievements
Championships: 3
Player of the Game: 89
Player of the Week: 1
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 94
Triple Doubles: 1
Awards
2035 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2035 - All-Rookie Team
2036 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2037 - All-League Third Team
2040 - All-League Third Team
2041 - All-Star Game Participant
2042 - All-Star Game Participant
2044 - 3-Point Shootout Champion
Arguments For Induction
- Six years in Charlotte, four years in Milwaukee, one year in Detroit, and one year in Washington, all of which were highly productive years in which he was one of the better SGs in the league. He progressed into 25-a-night with solid rebounding ability, solid passing ability, and even turned into a very reliable defender. He did it all!
- He was quite instrumental in a few great seasons, including as a member of the last 2 Bucks titles as well as one with the Wizards in his final year. Olle was always a remarkable offensive player come the playoffs for me and did a lot of the same for the Wizards as well, and always found a way to produce in other aspects of his game.
- Olle definitely has the stats to go up against most of the other SGs we've debated and come out favorably. He also has 2 All-League Third Teams, two All-Star Games in a stacked Eastern Conference, and will go down as one of the greatest International players ever.
Arguments Against Induction
- The argument against Olle was always the lack of success and empty stats but once that went away, it's likely that the biggest argument would be more about how he fit in. Olle was significantly stronger all the way throughout when it came to him as a team's #2 and never really found a way to have success as the #1. Considering he was on some nearly $200M rosters in Charlotte and still never found a way to get it done until he left and had a star ahead of him, that may be cause for caution to some... although I'd say it's not that big of a deal because he put together a strong career all things considered.
- His late entrance to the league isn't going to help as he came in at 26 and didn't have the opportunity to really progress as he was still being camped until he was nearly 30. Lacked a lot of time to put up awards and such which is never ideal in these cases.
- Olle definitely had some turnover issues with quite a few years over 3 TOPG and a career average of 2.9, which isn't horrible but is hard to overlook in some cases. Not necessarily the end of the world because he was a fine passer and got some stocks, but it's not what you want at SG given how many good defenders can make you pay.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully.
***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $100 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $100***
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