Post by Rog on Aug 14, 2016 3:40:01 GMT
The 40th and belated first from the 2014 class, Kidd was a prototypical point guard for many years in NBN. He passed the ball well, but did he do enough beyond that to deserve to be considered a legend, or is this just another Hall of Very Good player? Lets take a look.
Career Stats
28.5 MPG, 10.4 PPG, 6.8 APG, 4.7 RPG, 1.7 SPG, 0.1 BPG, 2.6 TOPG on 43.0% from the field, 76.3% from the line, and 34.3% from three
Best Season(Choose between 2000 and 2003, took 2003 because of the percentages)
Knicks(2003) - 15 PPG, 10.6 APG, 6.3 RPG, 2.5 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 3.9 TOPG on 46.9% from the field, 81.7% from the line, and 35.6% from three
Career Highs
Points: 41
Rebounds: 16
Assists: 22
Steals: 9
Blocks: 2
Achievements
Championships: 0
Player of the Game: 140
Player of the Week: 1
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 290
Triple Doubles: 30
Awards
2000 - All-Star Game Participant
2000 - All-League Second Team
2000 - All-Defensive Team
Arguments For Induction
- Was named to one All-Star Game, All-League Second Team, and an All-Defensive Team, all in the same season which was the very first of the league's.
- Awesome passer, averaged over 9 assists in the first 7 years of the league. He was the original pure distribution point guard for the league and he was very good at it. He averaged only 6.8 for his career but that first 7 year peak of his, he was good for 9.7 a game, you could basically bank on that.
- One of the best rebounding point guards of all time, he finished his career with 30 triple doubles, and in his peak averaged 5.5 or more for 7 seasons in a row. Again, his 4.7 career average is dragged down hard by his last five seasons of hardly playing at all.
- Wasn't a complete loss scoring wise, giving his team near 15 a game for his peak. Not great, but it wasn't like you could just leave him open and expect him to be a negative. He could hurt you on that end.
- This is a huge, HUGE peak versus longevity type case. The question you have to ask is his seven year peak good enough for you? He was good for 15 points, 9.5 assists, 6 rebounds, 2.5 steals for seven seasons. Thats damn good, is it Hall of Fame? Probably.
Arguments Against Induction
- I'll just repeat the first line of this: Was named to one All-Star Game, All-League Second Team, and an All-Defensive Team, all in the same season which was the very first of the league's.
- Could not hold onto the ball, period. That seven year peak we keep talking about he was also good for 3.5 or more turnovers a game as well, a total killer for a team. Sure, got everyone involved, including the other team.
- Was completely and utterly average offensively. Sure, got you 15 points, but on 45% or less almost every year, couldn't hit threes, and wasn't elite at the line. What could you depend on him to do there? Pretty much nothing.
- Seven seasons, in the weakest period in the league's history is what we have to base his entire case on. Sure he was good for seven years, but for a guy that was complete trash his last eight years of his career, that seven years needed to be out of this world, and it just wasn't. Over half of his career he spent riding the pine and wasn't really a factor. Add that on to the fact that he NEVER won a title, its hard to make a case for Hall of Very good, let alone Hall of Fame. Has to be a no.
Vote carefully, and remember to throw out arguments regardless of which side you're on. This should be a discussion that eventually gets the league to the proper decision on him. Your vote can also be retracted after it's been cast if you feel like switching to the other side based on the arguments that have been made. To be inducted, a player needs 70% and to be considered in a later class they need 50%. Vote carefully!
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