2028 Hall of Fame Nominee: Andre Drummond

[Rog]

The 114th nominee for the NBN Hall of Fame, Andre Drummond, was a defensive monster who didn't bring a ton to the other side of the ball. The question is was he good enough on the defensive end to overcome his offensive shortcomings? Lets find out. 


Career Stats
34.4 MPG, 10.7 PPG, 13.3 RPG, 3.5 BPG, 1.9 APG, 1.4 SPG, 2.0 TOPG on 42.2% from the field, 45.2% from the line

Best Season
Miami Heat(2018) - 13.2 PPG, 14.5 RPG, 3.8 BPG, 1.8 APG, 1.6 BPG, 1.8 TOPG on 42.4% from the field, 42.2% from the line

Career Highs
Points: 30
Rebounds: 29
Assists: 9
Steals: 8
Blocks: 15

Achievements
Championships: 1
Player of the Game: 70
Player of the Week: 0
Player of the Month: 0
Double Doubles: 668
Triple Doubles: 9

Career Leaderboard Rankings
Rebounds - 1st
Blocks - 2nd

Awards
2012 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2012 - All-Rookie Team
2013 - All-Star Rookie Game Participant
2013 - Defensive Player of the Year
2013 - All-Defensive Team
2014 - Defensive Player of the Year
2014 - All-Defensive Team
2015 - All-Defensive Second Team
2016 - All-Defensive Second Team
2018 - Defensive Player of the Year
2018 - All-Defensive Team
2019 - Defensive Player of the Year
2019 - All-Defensive Team
2024 - Defensive Player of the Year
2024 - All-Defensive Team


Arguments For Induction
- Drummond was named to five All-Defensive First Teams and Two All-Defensive Second teams. He also won five Defensive Player of the Year awards, which certainly has to easily be the most in league history.

- Normally if a player has one top 5 career leaderboard ranking to his name of a core stat(points, rebounds, steals, assists, blocks) they are a lock. Well Andre Drummond not only is top 5 in rebounds, he is flat out the best rebounder in league history. He averaged 13.3 rebounds per game for his career, which is also a pretty elite career average. He averaged 14 rebounds a game or more in four seasons as well. He was an absolutely elite rebounder.

- Not only was he an elite, all time great rebounder he was also an elite, all time great defender. He finished his career 2nd all time in blocks, which again is a near lock situation in and of itself. He averaged 3.5 blocks per game, which would still be good for top 10 in the league right now. He also averaged 1.4 steals, averaging nearly 5 stocks per game in his career, which at this point might be good for a consistent DPOTY win. 

- He wasn't entirely useless offensively either. You'll never have mistaken him for an offensive star, but he averaged 10.7 points per game for his career and was in the 12s for much of his career. Guys like Scott Pollard and others were denied in the past because they were true negatives offensively, but I don't think Drummond was that at all. Not great, but not awful either. 

- Overall, it comes down to this... Can you in good mind and body, deny a guy who was 2nd in blocks and was the best rebounder in league history enshrinement into the Hall of Fame? All over some bad offensive production and poor free throw shooting? I know I can't. 


Arguments Against Induction
- Seriously, all the awards he has are of the defensive variety. He has no All-Star Games and no All-League nominations. The Defensive Player of the Year awards are really nice, but he has nothing else to stand on. 

- And seriously, he was AWFUL offensively. Just because he took enough shots to get over 10.5 points per game, doesn't mean he wasn't a negative offensviely. He took 10 shots per game and only hit 42.2% of them. He was putrid from the line and added nothing beyond the first five feet from the rim. You could not count on him for anything offensively. 

- Overall, the Defensive Player of the Year awards are really nice, as are the all time rankings, but this league has created a habit of denying defensive minded players with bad offensive abilities, and Drummond should be no different right? Your choice. 



***BONUS - Don't forget that everyone who votes gets $25 and the person that makes the best argument or contributes to the discussion the best will be awarded an extra $25***

[Rog]

Andre Drummond's Player Page

[kipper]

I will say yes even if he was awful from the line. The reason is that he was a monster on the defensive side. Been over 13 rebounds a game for all of his career except for 3 seasons. 4 seasons of 3+ blocks and 14+ rebounds. 1st all time in rebounds, 2nd all time in blocks. He was a true Center with not so much offensive abilities that could still put up some points. But he was a dominant paint protector. From that alone he should be in the HoF. Won 5 defensive player of the year as well.

[Rog]

I think its impossible to say no to a guy who was as good defensively as Drummond was. Fucking five DPOTYs is nuts, and he has 2 top 2 core stats. Seems like a lock but who knows with this league.

[frosty]

Yes, his place on the boards and blocks leaderboard is enough

[JCog72]

Elite rebounder and shot blocker. Unreal defender that should be a HOFer

[A. Silver]

Easy yes, possibly the best defender ever. It was really interesting to see what the 76ers were able to do last year after adding him, even as an aging player he was a difference maker.

[pjclippers]

Prob one of the best post defenders the league has ever seen and despite poor shooting numbers from the field and the line he is still a lock to enter the Hall.

[lynchcats]

Drummond is the best defender in NBN history. The All-League awards don't do the guys who are defensive studs like Drummond any justice since they are offensive-driven awards. I can't think of any other players with 5 DPOY awards to their name. And he retired 1st in rebounds and 2nd in blocks all-time. He's certainly better than Scot Pollard who got in way too easily IMO.

[rr1582]

Easy yes, despite the lagging offensive game. When you're talking 7 separate All-Defensive Teams, 5 DPOY's, & incredible rebounding #'s, they don't get any better defensively than Drummond. Also when you're talking over 5 stocks a game, that's other worldly...only Anthony Davis or Embiid can rival those #'s of the current NBN players.

[Rog]

Feb 9, 2018 6:21:47 GMT lynchcats said:

Drummond is the best defender in NBN history. The All-League awards don't do the guys who are defensive studs like Drummond any justice since they are offensive-driven awards. I can't think of any other players with 5 DPOY awards to their name. And he retired 1st in rebounds and 2nd in blocks all-time. He's certainly better than Scot Pollard who got in way too easily IMO.

nothinbutnetleague.proboards.com/thread/6860/2017-revote-nominee-scott-pollard

Pollard was denied on his 1st and 2nd vote, and can't be revoted on at this point. 

[nfields21]

It's a yes from me

[lynchcats]

Feb 9, 2018 12:39:12 GMT Rog said:

Feb 9, 2018 6:21:47 GMT lynchcats said:

Drummond is the best defender in NBN history. The All-League awards don't do the guys who are defensive studs like Drummond any justice since they are offensive-driven awards. I can't think of any other players with 5 DPOY awards to their name. And he retired 1st in rebounds and 2nd in blocks all-time. He's certainly better than Scot Pollard who got in way too easily IMO.

nothinbutnetleague.proboards.com/thread/6860/2017-revote-nominee-scott-pollard

Pollard was denied on his 1st and 2nd vote, and can't be revoted on at this point. 

And that's what happens when I try to think at 2am LOL

[buckeyeballa10]

One of the best big man, if not the best defender in the league. 5 DPOTY awards is absolutely incredible. Drummond was a monster down low despite not giving you much in scoring. Easy yes for me.

[bigthunder]

Drummond was one of the best defensive bigs I've seen and he didn't hurt the team too bad on offense. Pretty amazing to bring in 5 DPOY's, all around beast.