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Post by cop5414 on Aug 16, 2024 17:22:18 GMT
Any chance of a government bailout? Sucks seeing this pile up at once.
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Post by naterade on Aug 16, 2024 17:25:59 GMT
Imagine moving into a new apartment and the landlord is like “hey I know you just got here but the last tenant didn’t pay 5 months of rent so that’s on you!” That’s how it feels to take on debt from someone else’s scouting choices… I dont see how you could possibly expect a new GM to take on those payments lmao In the Suns/ Hornets case, he left the team with more cash than was spent on scouts. So your example would be "hey I know you just got here, here's $2k. You owe me $1k." I'd take that deal Good point that was a bad analogy |
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Post by ripkobebryant on Aug 16, 2024 17:26:17 GMT
Lol I would happily take the job of trying to keep this up to date so we can more easily keep track of this.. if that’s needed.. so much debt league wide haha Thats why im taking over it |
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Post by A. Silver on Aug 16, 2024 17:30:21 GMT
No. Interim GMs should be charged directly for their scouting if they choose to scout players on an interim team. But they had cash at the time to cover it. It's not my fault that he didn't account for it. I told him that I had spent 1200 on scouting when he took over. Now, I'm getting charged for it all? This isn't cool either. If the interim is supposed to do their best job to run the team that includes to make sure you draft the best player and then develop them. You need scouts to do that. That's why I asked like 3 seasons ago if interims could get a few free scouts each year. I don't think that's a crazy request. You are not entitled to scouting reports just because you are an interim GM. You do not need scouting reports to make draft picks, especially as an interim. Your job is to keep the team afloat using the resources you have. I don't particularly like doing scouts, and I don't want to do dozens more every season so interim teams can be better. You already asked for free scouts for interims, I said no, and now you are expecting them anyway. |
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Post by ripkobebryant on Aug 16, 2024 17:33:58 GMT
I would say yes.... but u gotta ask Rog and A. Silver It was also an interim GM that did it not a gm that quit or got fired so I would say yes but its not my place to make that call. No. Interim GMs should be charged directly for their scouting if they choose to scout players on an interim team. Well not exactly. I dont think thats fair. Silent has been wolves and suns interim and has been using their cash to scout. I mean its his fault those 2 got nothing to show for but he shouldnt pay with his hornets cash thats weird. unlike Suns and Wolves, I have actually made Spurs better. I had 5 picks i scouted only 3 but they had 12,000 in the bank… I scouted for them, I super camped for them. I mentored Booker with Sabonis, super camped arenas and nate robinson… without that cash from them I wouldnt be able to do anything. Im negative with Knicks and still have 2 people i need to camp. I agree that if the previous gm used scouts and ur negative as a new GM yes your account bank should go to 0 but I do not agree that main gm should use his own cash to scout for another team. |
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Post by ripkobebryant on Aug 16, 2024 17:41:32 GMT
Fixed Suns. Putting them back to where they were as I think its fair. Went through the forum again and zheld32 only scouted Jeremiah Profit so im only gonna do -200 for for them. If anybody else has an issue let me know. All Scouts done Boston Celtics = (-350$) Miami Heat = $6000 Brooklyn Nets = $2600 New York Knicks = (-1600$) Orlando Magic = (-1300$) Philadelphia 76ers = (-2850$) Washington Wizards = (-800$) Atlanta Hawks = $1150 New Orleans Pelicans = $2400 Charlotte Hornets = $1950 Cleveland Cavs = $4100 Detroit Pistons = (-12100$) Indiana Pacers = $3900 Milwaukee Bucks = $1900 Toronto Raptors = $250 Dallas Mavericks = $1550 Denver Nuggets = $2550 Houston Rockets = $7250 Minnesota Wolves = $2250 San Antonio Spurs = $6450 Utah Jazz = (-4200$) Vancouver Grizzlies = $7800 Golden State Warriors = $1000 Los Angeles Clippers = $650 Los Angeles Lakers = $5300 Phoenix Suns = (-650$) Portland Trailblazers = $9900 Sacramento Kings = $2600 OKC Thunder = (-2050$) |
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Post by A. Silver on Aug 16, 2024 17:53:18 GMT
More problems with interim GMs...
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Post by A. Silver on Aug 16, 2024 17:54:50 GMT
More problems with interim GMs... I'm starting to think we should do away with them entirely. It's already more of a problem than I want to deal with. |
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Post by naterade on Aug 16, 2024 17:58:57 GMT
More problems with interim GMs... I'm starting to think we should do away with them entirely. It's already more of a problem than I want to deal with. Maybe just make it stencil level simple where you can do like 3-4 things. Set DC’s, sign FAs, camp players. Camping is tough if there is no income though, which makes it sad for new GMs to acquire a stud prospect 3 years in with no camps lol Does the game auto any of these tasks effectively? |
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Post by ripkobebryant on Aug 16, 2024 18:01:14 GMT
More problems with interim GMs... I'm starting to think we should do away with them entirely. It's already more of a problem than I want to deal with. In fairness, I think I have done great with Spurs and have done greatly for them  . Just had a convo with naterade too. I think its really a situational thing here. i love silent but lets be honest. Even in the trade committee we all didnt think he should be an interim for obvious reasons. if Silent spent cash for Suns and they had something to show for it I dont think zheld would be as upset. Like naterade, bundy scouted for Sarunas, can he be upset about that? Can a new gm 2 seasons from now be upset that I used cash to super camp arenas and nate robinson can a new gm come in and be upset about it cuz if i didnt do it they would just be uncamped. |
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Post by verysilentone on Aug 16, 2024 18:26:29 GMT
I'm starting to think we should do away with them entirely. It's already more of a problem than I want to deal with. In fairness, I think I have done great with Spurs and have done greatly for them . Just had a convo with naterade too. I think its really a situational thing here. i love silent but lets be honest. Even in the trade committee we all didnt think he should be an interim for obvious reasons. if Silent spent cash for Suns and they had something to show for it I dont think zheld would be as upset. Like naterade, bundy scouted for Sarunas, can he be upset about that? Can a new gm 2 seasons from now be upset that I used cash to super camp arenas and nate robinson can a new gm come in and be upset about it cuz if i didnt do it they would just be uncamped. He has Aaron Rowe who looks pretty damn good. I did what I thought was right for the Suns which was keep them where they were because they had just come off the finals appearance. It's a different situation than the Wolves, who clearly weren't going anywhere as built. Their starting frontcourt was Obi Toppin and Lakota Taylor last year. I camped Bailey. It's not my fault he didn't develop properly. I've done all pickems and posted all DCs for both teams. I scouted players and camped all players and used the cash that I made from doing those things for the Suns and Wolves. They would've been way in the black if the activity bonuses had kept up. I'll stop arguing since I don't want to keep making problems. Just charge me for the Suns scouts, that's fine. I did my job as interim. If the new GM doesn't post DCs, do pickems and then is in the negative, that shouldn't be on me, but whatever. |
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Post by ripkobebryant on Aug 16, 2024 18:31:20 GMT
In fairness, I think I have done great with Spurs and have done greatly for them . Just had a convo with naterade too. I think its really a situational thing here. i love silent but lets be honest. Even in the trade committee we all didnt think he should be an interim for obvious reasons. if Silent spent cash for Suns and they had something to show for it I dont think zheld would be as upset. Like naterade, bundy scouted for Sarunas, can he be upset about that? Can a new gm 2 seasons from now be upset that I used cash to super camp arenas and nate robinson can a new gm come in and be upset about it cuz if i didnt do it they would just be uncamped. He has Aaron Rowe who looks pretty damn good. I did what I thought was right for the Suns which was keep them where they were because they had just come off the finals appearance. It's a different situation than the Wolves, who clearly weren't going anywhere as built. Their starting frontcourt was Obi Toppin and Lakota Taylor last year. I camped Bailey. It's not my fault he didn't develop properly. I've done all pickems and posted all DCs for both teams. I scouted players and camped all players and used the cash that I made from doing those things for the Suns and Wolves. They would've been way in the black if the activity bonuses had kept up. I'll stop arguing since I don't want to keep making problems. Just charge me for the Suns scouts, that's fine. I did my job as interim. If the new GM doesn't post DCs, do pickems and then is in the negative, that shouldn't be on me, but whatever. I already said I don’t think its fair to charge Hornets for that all I said is the moves that were made werent the BEST. every move ive made with Spurs benefitted them. I cant say the same for your interim job with Wolves. Every deal made them worse. Giddey deal was bad, Edwards deal was ok I guess but then turned horrible when you moved Chet anyway. Every deal slowly made Wolves worse and worse. How you go from Edwards and Giddey to Trey Murphy and Jalen Hood Schifino is beyond me |
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Post by verysilentone on Aug 16, 2024 18:42:02 GMT
He has Aaron Rowe who looks pretty damn good. I did what I thought was right for the Suns which was keep them where they were because they had just come off the finals appearance. It's a different situation than the Wolves, who clearly weren't going anywhere as built. Their starting frontcourt was Obi Toppin and Lakota Taylor last year. I camped Bailey. It's not my fault he didn't develop properly. I've done all pickems and posted all DCs for both teams. I scouted players and camped all players and used the cash that I made from doing those things for the Suns and Wolves. They would've been way in the black if the activity bonuses had kept up. I'll stop arguing since I don't want to keep making problems. Just charge me for the Suns scouts, that's fine. I did my job as interim. If the new GM doesn't post DCs, do pickems and then is in the negative, that shouldn't be on me, but whatever. I already said I don’t think its fair to charge Hornets for that all I said is the moves that were made werent the BEST. every move ive made with Spurs benefitted them. I cant say the same for your interim job with Wolves. Every deal made them worse. Giddey deal was bad, Edwards deal was ok I guess but then turned horrible when you moved Chet anyway. Every deal slowly made Wolves worse and worse. How you go from Edwards and Giddey to Trey Murphy and Jalen Hood Schifino is beyond me That first part wasn't about you. I said to charge me so silver doesn't have to chime in about it again. Just end that part of the discussion. I'll stop arguing the whole thing. I don't know how long the only trade committee thing went but looks like everyone's had enough of it. I think I've done a solid job. It looks like everyone else disagrees, but whatever. |
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Post by leflop on Aug 16, 2024 18:53:06 GMT
Ban scouting.
Interim GMs for picking, dc setting, and camping.
New GMs already get free camps and bank reset if needed once they pick up the team from the interim.
Please and thank you. No scouting means no hold up on drafting either via waiting for scouts.
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Post by yourkers15 on Aug 16, 2024 19:02:31 GMT
I'm glad i don't scout.
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