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Post by Rog on May 26, 2024 19:38:37 GMT
Gonna send this to committee. I will personally be voting to veto it when I do. I don't think future picks should be moved by interims but we also need to establish what we want to do. We haven't had a new GM in a while. I dont think this deal is veto worthy if it wasn't an interim GM situation but I also don't think if we are intending to make a team as appealing as possible to an incoming GM should be trading future firsts. Teams with their picks are almost always far more valuable to the eyes of an incoming GM than team's without picks, unless those teams are title contenders and I don't think the Blazers are close to being a title contender even with Giannis. They could sneak into the playoffs and I think maybe for the health of the league as a whole that might be a good thing but for the health of the Blazers and trying to fill them, this ain't it.
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Post by SpikeLee14 on May 26, 2024 19:43:10 GMT
Gonna send this to committee. I will personally be voting to veto it when I do. I don't think future picks should be moved by interims but we also need to establish what we want to do. We haven't had a new GM in a while. I dont think this deal is veto worthy if it wasn't an interim GM situation but I also don't think if we are intending to make a team as appealing as possible to an incoming GM should be trading future firsts. Teams with their picks are almost always far more valuable to the eyes of an incoming GM than team's without picks, unless those teams are title contenders and I don't think the Blazers are close to being a title contender even with Giannis. They could sneak into the playoffs and I think maybe for the health of the league as a whole that might be a good thing but for the health of the Blazers and trying to fill them, this ain't it. I don’t disagree here but what’s another 15th pick going to do? Plus how’s he supposed to camp all the young talent. Idk think moving these firsts are not crazy with the players under contract but again I’m not against committee to chat about it |
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Post by SpikeLee14 on May 26, 2024 19:43:24 GMT
West was also really bad this helps balance the league more idk
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Post by Rog on May 26, 2024 19:47:35 GMT
Gonna send this to committee. I will personally be voting to veto it when I do. I don't think future picks should be moved by interims but we also need to establish what we want to do. We haven't had a new GM in a while. I dont think this deal is veto worthy if it wasn't an interim GM situation but I also don't think if we are intending to make a team as appealing as possible to an incoming GM should be trading future firsts. Teams with their picks are almost always far more valuable to the eyes of an incoming GM than team's without picks, unless those teams are title contenders and I don't think the Blazers are close to being a title contender even with Giannis. They could sneak into the playoffs and I think maybe for the health of the league as a whole that might be a good thing but for the health of the Blazers and trying to fill them, this ain't it. I don’t disagree here but what’s another 15th pick going to do? Plus how’s he supposed to camp all the young talent. Idk think moving these firsts are not crazy with the players under contract but again I’m not against committee to chat about it Its not about where the pick will be if Yourkers is the GM with Giannis, its what should interim GMs be trying to do. If the answer is to make a team more appealing for an incoming GM then not trading future picks is the way to go. If the answer is to make the team the best it can be given the circumstances(if a team needs to tear it down and rebuild thats the direction, if a team can push chips in to win more thats the direction... ect), then this trade is fine. West is bad, yeah sure but the opposite side of things becomes that this trade pushes the Blazers into that dreaded 9-14ish area(total league) where you are securely a playoff team most year's but not good enough to win a title. With no picks, limited assets, how do you make a contender after trading for Giannis? Trading Sarr? He looks like a franchise piece potentially and him+picks+likely still being a low levl playoff team potentially in the west to me seems the most appealing for a new GM. |
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Post by Rog on May 26, 2024 19:51:07 GMT
West was also really bad this helps balance the league more idk I do agree that it helps balance the league as a whole, but do we see this as a utilitarianism situation where we should aim to do the greatest good for the greatest number? And can we quantify that league competitive balance is the greatest good for the greatest number? Hence what I mean by we need to figure out what we want. The easiest solution here is to just recruit GMs and not make this question give me and Silver a headache trying to figure out. |
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Post by yourkers15 on May 26, 2024 19:56:18 GMT
The blazers would still have 3 picks. Their 30 and 31 1st and a Knicks 31 1st. I also got them cash so they could use that in trades. But if we don't want them to trade their picks then that just ends the discussion.
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Post by ucfinfan86 on May 26, 2024 20:02:05 GMT
I don’t disagree here but what’s another 15th pick going to do? Plus how’s he supposed to camp all the young talent. Idk think moving these firsts are not crazy with the players under contract but again I’m not against committee to chat about it Its not about where the pick will be if Yourkers is the GM with Giannis, its what should interim GMs be trying to do. If the answer is to make a team more appealing for an incoming GM then not trading future picks is the way to go. If the answer is to make the team the best it can be given the circumstances(if a team needs to tear it down and rebuild thats the direction, if a team can push chips in to win more thats the direction... ect), then this trade is fine. West is bad, yeah sure but the opposite side of things becomes that this trade pushes the Blazers into that dreaded 9-14ish area(total league) where you are securely a playoff team most year's but not good enough to win a title. With no picks, limited assets, how do you make a contender after trading for Giannis? Trading Sarr? He looks like a franchise piece potentially and him+picks+likely still being a low levl playoff team potentially in the west to me seems the most appealing for a new GM. I agree that by the letter that was set that he shouldn’t trade future picks. I do think we should re-open the discussion. At this point we have like 4-5 open teams. I’m more interested in the health of the league. A new GM has multiple options at this point. It sucks if we are going to continue to have multiple below .500 teams making the playoffs and 4-5 interim teams routinely “tanking”. It makes the league very top heavy and also makes it frustrating for the active GMs that would like to tank for a season or 2 but having so many bad teams that it’s hard to. There’s also a point where then you only have a handful of teams looking to add talent and it makes trading difficult. I would never be in favor of interims going “all-in” and trading all of their youth and future picks, but there could be a happy medium. |
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Post by Rog on May 26, 2024 20:15:02 GMT
Is there absolutely no one that we can recruit? Everyone tell everyone haha
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Post by ripkobebryant on May 26, 2024 20:22:17 GMT
Yeah.
Yourkers is the most active gm in the league. He also knows how to make a winning team.
I hate deals as interims but you guys opened my eyes.
I rather see a non gm team do something then just sit still and let the team poo.
There arent any gms left in the game and even if there was its tough to get someone interested in year 5.
Approve the deal
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Post by cop5414 on May 26, 2024 20:23:29 GMT
Its not about where the pick will be if Yourkers is the GM with Giannis, its what should interim GMs be trying to do. If the answer is to make a team more appealing for an incoming GM then not trading future picks is the way to go. If the answer is to make the team the best it can be given the circumstances(if a team needs to tear it down and rebuild thats the direction, if a team can push chips in to win more thats the direction... ect), then this trade is fine. West is bad, yeah sure but the opposite side of things becomes that this trade pushes the Blazers into that dreaded 9-14ish area(total league) where you are securely a playoff team most year's but not good enough to win a title. With no picks, limited assets, how do you make a contender after trading for Giannis? Trading Sarr? He looks like a franchise piece potentially and him+picks+likely still being a low levl playoff team potentially in the west to me seems the most appealing for a new GM. I agree that by the letter that was set that he shouldn’t trade future picks. I do think we should re-open the discussion. At this point we have like 4-5 open teams. I’m more interested in the health of the league. A new GM has multiple options at this point. It sucks if we are going to continue to have multiple below .500 teams making the playoffs and 4-5 interim teams routinely “tanking”. It makes the league very top heavy and also makes it frustrating for the active GMs that would like to tank for a season or 2 but having so many bad teams that it’s hard to. There’s also a point where then you only have a handful of teams looking to add talent and it makes trading difficult. I would never be in favor of interims going “all-in” and trading all of their youth and future picks, but there could be a happy medium. Protected picks with league reinbursement to active GM? |
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Post by dash on May 26, 2024 20:27:47 GMT
Is there absolutely no one that we can recruit? Everyone tell everyone haha FBB is really on its last legs. Basketball-gm has a lot of potential converts. |
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Post by cop5414 on May 26, 2024 20:29:31 GMT
Is there absolutely no one that we can recruit? Everyone tell everyone haha FBB is really on its last legs. Basketball-gm has a lot of potential converts. Tried that already |
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Post by SpikeLee14 on May 26, 2024 20:41:04 GMT
Yeah. Yourkers is the most active gm in the league. He also knows how to make a winning team. I hate deals as interims but you guys opened my eyes. I rather see a non gm team do something then just sit still and let the team poo. There arent any gms left in the game and even if there was its tough to get someone interested in year 5. Approve the deal My man. Thank you for just being open to change. Hate teams that just stand pat and are eh. We shall see how this works out. Again if he moved these picks with no youth id be like veto but im cool with it after signing JHS |
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Post by ripkobebryant on May 26, 2024 20:43:36 GMT
Yeah. Yourkers is the most active gm in the league. He also knows how to make a winning team. I hate deals as interims but you guys opened my eyes. I rather see a non gm team do something then just sit still and let the team poo. There arent any gms left in the game and even if there was its tough to get someone interested in year 5. Approve the deal My man. Thank you for just being open to change. Hate teams that just stand pat and are eh. We shall see how this works out. Again if he moved these picks with no youth id be like veto but im cool with it after signing JHS Not just jhs. They got scoot bufkin dame who are a nice 1-2-3 |
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Post by dash on May 26, 2024 21:10:19 GMT
FBB is really on its last legs. Basketball-gm has a lot of potential converts. Tried that already its UI is amazing but the game itself is not good without constant interference. mvp's turn to dogshit at 24 lol |
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