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Post by SpikeLee14 on Aug 13, 2024 15:17:30 GMT
Bufkin is four years younger making 18 mill less who averaged more points and plays way better defense. of course you paid more lol
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Post by Rog on Aug 13, 2024 15:20:00 GMT
I think it's kinda silly that every trade we get the same comment of not being able to negotiate, just send your best offer to start and you can avoid that. I initially offered two picks and cash, looked up the last time Bufkin got traded, saw that he was traded for 3 picks and cash so I added a pick without ever getting a response. I offered better value than every other offer, better value than what Reaves went for, and the same value as what Bufkin was traded from the Blazers for (and ithink every comment was that the Blazers won that trade) and I somehow got the player I wanted, it's not that complicated Sending your best offer first is stupid and you know this. I expect you to defend this for obvious reasons but come on |
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Post by carlos on Aug 13, 2024 15:20:47 GMT
Bufkin is four years younger making 18 mill less who averaged more points and plays way better defense. of course you paid more lol You read one line of my response and really latched onto it. He said he got 3 offers, the Reaves one, ucf's of 2 picks and cash for Bufkin and another player, and mine. I beat all the offers I didn't complain when you traded Reaves after I asked if you were interested in a package of future picks and didn't get a response bc I didn't actually put a better offer in front of you. That's my fault, not yours. Same thing here |
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Post by carlos on Aug 13, 2024 15:22:34 GMT
I think it's kinda silly that every trade we get the same comment of not being able to negotiate, just send your best offer to start and you can avoid that. I initially offered two picks and cash, looked up the last time Bufkin got traded, saw that he was traded for 3 picks and cash so I added a pick without ever getting a response. I offered better value than every other offer, better value than what Reaves went for, and the same value as what Bufkin was traded from the Blazers for (and ithink every comment was that the Blazers won that trade) and I somehow got the player I wanted, it's not that complicated Sending your best offer first is stupid and you know this. I expect you to defend this for obvious reasons but come on For GMs that like to negotiate it is. For interim GMs that like to mull over their moves when the season is coming up and I need to finalize my roster, it's not. Viewing every situation the same is stupid and I hope everyone here knows that |
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Post by Rog on Aug 13, 2024 15:26:02 GMT
Sending your best offer first is stupid and you know this. I expect you to defend this for obvious reasons but come on For GMs that like to negotiate it is. For interim GMs that like to mull over their moves when the season is coming up and I need to finalize my roster, it's not. Viewing every situation the same is stupid and I hope everyone here knows that If you send your best offer you'd be willing to do that bad GMing. Period. Again I expect you to defend him, but this is a bad take. |
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Post by carlos on Aug 13, 2024 15:29:06 GMT
For GMs that like to negotiate it is. For interim GMs that like to mull over their moves when the season is coming up and I need to finalize my roster, it's not. Viewing every situation the same is stupid and I hope everyone here knows that If you send your best offer you'd be willing to do that bad GMing. Period. Again I expect you to defend him, but this is a bad take. I literally did just that, so I guess I'm a bad GM? I don't know what to tell you, I offered every pick I could trade and almost all of my cash. I guess I had like $500 left in the bank to negotiate with. |
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Post by SpikeLee14 on Aug 13, 2024 15:29:48 GMT
Bufkin is four years younger making 18 mill less who averaged more points and plays way better defense. of course you paid more lol You read one line of my response and really latched onto it. He said he got 3 offers, the Reaves one, ucf's of 2 picks and cash for Bufkin and another player, and mine. I beat all the offers I didn't complain when you traded Reaves after I asked if you were interested in a package of future picks and didn't get a response bc I didn't actually put a better offer in front of you. That's my fault, not yours. Same thing here I did miss the response because i got flooded with PMs but i remeber seeing you traded for barnes and there was no way you can make an offer for another 43 mill guy with your roster so i think i moved on |
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Post by SpikeLee14 on Aug 13, 2024 15:32:59 GMT
I think it's kinda silly that every trade we get the same comment of not being able to negotiate, just send your best offer to start and you can avoid that. I initially offered two picks and cash, looked up the last time Bufkin got traded, saw that he was traded for 3 picks and cash so I added a pick without ever getting a response. I offered better value than every other offer, better value than what Reaves went for, and the same value as what Bufkin was traded from the Blazers for (and ithink every comment was that the Blazers won that trade) and I somehow got the player I wanted, it's not that complicated Sending your best offer first is stupid and you know this. I expect you to defend this for obvious reasons but come on im also with Rog here, i never send my best offer. Ive gotten players for less cause i sent an okay offer and find out thats all it took |
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Post by carlos on Aug 13, 2024 15:41:46 GMT
Sending your best offer first is stupid and you know this. I expect you to defend this for obvious reasons but come on im also with Rog here, i never send my best offer. Ive gotten players for less cause i sent an okay offer and find out thats all it took If I'm trading with someone who likes the back and forth and is running their own team, I agree. It's why I didn't spell out my Reaves offer in my PM to you even though I would've done something similar to this. If it's an interim, I don't really haggle much. The whole point of interims is to keep the team in good standing, I negotiated against myself before he even responded bc my initial offer was worse than the last time Bufkin moved |
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Post by Rog on Aug 13, 2024 15:44:13 GMT
If you send your best offer you'd be willing to do that bad GMing. Period. Again I expect you to defend him, but this is a bad take. I literally did just that, so I guess I'm a bad GM? I don't know what to tell you, I offered every pick I could trade and almost all of my cash. I guess I had like $500 left in the bank to negotiate with. You got the player and you aren't the one at issue here. Having two GMs offering, one saying they are willing to negotiate only to take an offer without negotiating is failing as an interim, which is what we're talking. I'm saying asking GMs to send best offer first is a bad take and something we shouldn't expect. And we should especially expect an interim GM to negatiate and get the best deal. |
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Post by A. Silver on Aug 13, 2024 15:50:01 GMT
For GMs that like to negotiate it is. For interim GMs that like to mull over their moves when the season is coming up and I need to finalize my roster, it's not. Viewing every situation the same is stupid and I hope everyone here knows that If you send your best offer you'd be willing to do that bad GMing. Period. Again I expect you to defend him, but this is a bad take. Call me a bad GM then, because I frequently send my best offer. |
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Post by leflop on Aug 13, 2024 15:52:33 GMT
I now know that I'm the 2nd worst GM here for a reason - I always try to send my best offer as my first offer (different gm valuations aside) to avoid any stressful haggling and hate trading mostly because of that reason and the responses in this thread will probably turn me off of trading more.
Clearly that's a mistake for "good GMing", but fuck it. I'm here to have fun, not to extract blood from a stone.
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Post by carlos on Aug 13, 2024 15:53:13 GMT
I literally did just that, so I guess I'm a bad GM? I don't know what to tell you, I offered every pick I could trade and almost all of my cash. I guess I had like $500 left in the bank to negotiate with. You got the player and you aren't the one at issue here. Having two GMs offering, one saying they are willing to negotiate only to take an offer without negotiating is failing as an interim, which is what we're talking. I'm saying asking GMs to send best offer first is a bad take and something we shouldn't expect. And we should especially expect an interim GM to negatiate and get the best deal. I think some of that pressure needs to be applied to the rest of the GMs. We expect interims to part-time a second team, win every trade, and only make good signings while also getting every move scrutinized. When I interimed the Warriors, all my trades got shat on but all the offers I got were fucking horrible. If the interims are in place for the good of the league, everyone else has to do their part too. |
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Post by Rog on Aug 13, 2024 15:56:37 GMT
If you send your best offer you'd be willing to do that bad GMing. Period. Again I expect you to defend him, but this is a bad take. Call me a bad GM then, because I frequently send my best offer. You're a bad GM  |
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Post by Rog on Aug 13, 2024 15:57:01 GMT
Also never said people did that were bad GMs, I just consider it bad GMing. There is a difference.
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