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Post by carlos on Dec 4, 2022 0:24:26 GMT
He’s averaging 20 ppg on 39% shooting, he’s going to average 24-25 ppg again this season like he has each season he’s been in the league. 44M isn’t even going to be dabilitating, not to mention the mentoring he offers for a team with youth and likely cap in 3-4 seasons. I get what you're saying but vets are severely undervalued. I'm sure donny isn't getting great offers for Walt who fits the same description and has a better contract and mentor |
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Post by carmelo115 on Dec 4, 2022 0:28:58 GMT
I'd take bird but I'm one of the few probably Well of course you would |
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Post by cheddar on Dec 4, 2022 0:31:40 GMT
He’s averaging 20 ppg on 39% shooting, he’s going to average 24-25 ppg again this season like he has each season he’s been in the league. 44M isn’t even going to be dabilitating, not to mention the mentoring he offers for a team with youth and likely cap in 3-4 seasons. I get what you're saying but vets are severely undervalued. I'm sure donny isn't getting great offers for Walt who fits the same description and has a better contract and mentor Oh without question. Im not saying he should net a return of a future star or anything at this point. But to present it as if he has negative value to the point you need to move one of the best players in the league to rid yourself of the contract is totally underselling him IMO. |
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Post by pjclippers on Dec 4, 2022 0:32:56 GMT
Not sure the need to move Bird anyway - if you are going to rebuild trade everyone else of value, keep him around to mentor any young bigs that you draft and once he's expiring and you're ready to compete you can unload him then.
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Post by cheddar on Dec 4, 2022 0:38:34 GMT
Bernard King was towards the end of his career, making more than Bird does now. He went for a solid player + 1st a season ago. I just think he jumped the gun here.
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Post by The Slough on Dec 4, 2022 0:40:44 GMT
WTF?!?!
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Post by The Slough on Dec 4, 2022 0:46:06 GMT
I did reach out on MJ and by no means I will say it was an amazing offer or better, but this just doesn't make sense at all for the Mavs. At minimum you get DC and the rest of it as well. No wonder our talks now Van, touche. Crazy thing is, if Mavs countered with something he likely walks away with Mcgowens plus Wang and a 1st or something for MJ.
Again, I am not one to say my offer was better, I don't like that rhetoric, its up to the gm and what he likes.
I did offer Mcgowens, daugherty, grizz '50 1st which would have added more with some trade talks, but nothing countered. Oh well.
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Post by Retired on Dec 4, 2022 0:55:16 GMT
I did reach out on MJ and by no means I will say it was an amazing offer or better, but this just doesn't make sense at all for the Mavs. At minimum you get DC and the rest of it as well. No wonder our talks now Van, touche. Crazy thing is, if Mavs countered with something he likely walks away with Mcgowens plus Wang and a 1st or something for MJ. Again, I am not one to say my offer was better, I don't like that rhetoric, its up to the gm and what he likes. I did offer Mcgowens, daugherty, grizz '50 1st which would have added more with some trade talks, but nothing countered. Oh well. Yeah that’s a trash offer, do better |
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Post by The Slough on Dec 4, 2022 0:58:34 GMT
I did reach out on MJ and by no means I will say it was an amazing offer or better, but this just doesn't make sense at all for the Mavs. At minimum you get DC and the rest of it as well. No wonder our talks now Van, touche. Crazy thing is, if Mavs countered with something he likely walks away with Mcgowens plus Wang and a 1st or something for MJ. Again, I am not one to say my offer was better, I don't like that rhetoric, its up to the gm and what he likes. I did offer Mcgowens, daugherty, grizz '50 1st which would have added more with some trade talks, but nothing countered. Oh well. Yeah that’s a trash offer, do better I never said it was amazing, just that I did reach out and didn't get a counter is all, nobody comes all out on the first offer, I like to negotiate. Also Mcgowens is low key quite good and on a very good contract. |
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Post by Michael on Dec 4, 2022 3:16:26 GMT
I think everyone has been pretty respectful discussing this trade. When a big trade like this happens, I think it is healthy for the league to have this type of discussion. It's probably more the toll from the past two weeks that has frustrated some, and just a bit of a hassle for Silver to read through lots of pages and come to a decision.
I still think the trade is bad but now remembering my first vetoed trade as a new GM, trading a high lotto for The Professor, this is nowhere close so I am also okay if this doesn't go to the committee.
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Post by josephballin11 on Dec 4, 2022 3:29:40 GMT
I think everyone has been pretty respectful discussing this trade. When a big trade like this happens, I think it is healthy for the league to have this type of discussion. It's probably more the toll from the past two weeks that has frustrated some, and just a bit of a hassle for Silver to read through lots of pages and come to a decision. I still think the trade is bad but now remembering my first vetoed trade as a new GM, trading a high lotto for The Professor, this is nowhere close so I am also okay if this doesn't go to the committee. LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE PROFESSOR |
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Post by The Slough on Dec 4, 2022 3:31:32 GMT
I think everyone has been pretty respectful discussing this trade. When a big trade like this happens, I think it is healthy for the league to have this type of discussion. It's probably more the toll from the past two weeks that has frustrated some, and just a bit of a hassle for Silver to read through lots of pages and come to a decision. I still think the trade is bad but now remembering my first vetoed trade as a new GM, trading a high lotto for The Professor, this is nowhere close so I am also okay if this doesn't go to the committee. 100%. Its tough as well cause you want to put your own mark on your team too, Sid likely would always have that I came in with MJ and Bird, so didn't really build his team type of thing. I just think he should have got DC on the deal, would have made it better.0 |
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Post by The Slough on Dec 4, 2022 3:32:44 GMT
I think everyone has been pretty respectful discussing this trade. When a big trade like this happens, I think it is healthy for the league to have this type of discussion. It's probably more the toll from the past two weeks that has frustrated some, and just a bit of a hassle for Silver to read through lots of pages and come to a decision. I still think the trade is bad but now remembering my first vetoed trade as a new GM, trading a high lotto for The Professor, this is nowhere close so I am also okay if this doesn't go to the committee. LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE PROFESSOR whats worse is who offered a giant contract for Da Professor? |
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Post by HF on Dec 4, 2022 3:42:12 GMT
I would take bird for free lol
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Post by HF on Dec 4, 2022 3:43:31 GMT
That’s why I don’t get why bird is a bad contract. Have you guys seen the sfs
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